Follow live updates after an ICE officer fatally shot 37-year-old Renee Nicole Good in Minnesota, sparking national outrage.

  • frog_brawler@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    This is Lemmy, so I’ll be downvoted, but this video does change my opinion on things a bit (not enough to change my mind about he should not have shot her).

    The narrative that she was going home after dropping her kid off at school seems like at best, a partial truth at this point. Maybe they stopped to film ICE because they happened to come across ICE activity while on the way home? I’m speculating, I don’t know. I still cannot understand exactly why they were stopped there to begin with, unless simply to film ICE… but she had a right to do that.

    That being said, and what the video still does not explain is what the other vehicle is that’s opposite from the one the ICE people pulled up in. The murderer didn’t get out of that silver/gold SUV (left of her Maroon Honda), so was the murderer’s vehicle the one that was on the other side of her SUV? Did she put her vehicle in between two ICE agent vehicles while they were in the middle of doing one of their kidnappings? That’s a problematic decision if so.

    I also think it’s reasonable to believe that he felt his life was in danger; but that he put himself into that situation because he’s a fucking dumbass.

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      If he felt that his life was in danger from a car, shooting at it wouldn’t reduce the danger. The only thing a pedestrian armed with a pistol can do to avoid getting run over by a car within short range is to get out of its way.

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        Agreed, but no one really read what I wrote. They just downvoted me because they assumed I was supporting him.

        • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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          Did she put her vehicle in between two ICE agent vehicles while they were in the middle of doing one of their kidnappings? That’s a problematic decision if so.

          I also think it’s reasonable to believe that he felt his life was in danger;

          These ignorant, disgusting takes are why you are getting downvoted. You are victim blaming and making excuses for a cold blooded murderer.

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            21 hours ago

            Yea, I didn’t agree hard enough. Lots of stupid illiterate people on here.

            Keep fucking downvoting me.

            The first thing is a question. Are people not allowed to ask questions? You’re calling someone who’s asking a question ignorant… uh, doesn’t ignorance get fixed by knowledge? Maybe try answering the GD question instead of just claiming it’s ignorant and pretending like you know the answer.

            Why was her car perpendicular to the flow of traffic and between two other cars?

            #2. Dumbass probably did feel like his life was in danger. Dumbass stood in front of a fucking SUV. He did it to himself. Contributory Negligence is the name for it.

            There’s 0 victim blaming in anything I wrote.

            Also, fuck you personally. If you’re going to quote someone, quote their whole sentence. I said that he probably did feel like his life was in danger because he put himself into a situation.

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          I read your whole comment, but I have actually met my quota for reading shit written by idiots for today so I stopped there before reading the rest of your greatest hits.

          • frog_brawler@lemmy.world
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            You’re the part of the left that got Trump elected, so I could not give a shit less about your nonsense. If I needed any shit from you, I’d scrape it off your teeth.

            • UnspecificGravity@piefed.socialOP
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              If being opposed to ICE agents murdering people in the streets is too far left for you , then it sounds like I made a pretty accurate assessment of your value. Buh bye.

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                The user you’re shitting on here does not even disagree with you, you’re just too lazy to read

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                  They were willing to dismiss this murder with all six other angles until this one. They deserve nothing but derision and social castigation. You don’t get credit for being the last person to recognize evil.

                  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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                    Not what they said at all. “I changed my mind a bit” is all you people need to go the fuck off in judgement. No wonder the US is so fucked.

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                I am very clearly opposed to that as well doofus, you just want to start shit because I don’t agree hard enough for your liking apparently. It’s either that, or you aren’t fully literate.

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                  Unless I’m misreading you big time, ppl ITT all think you said a bunch of shit you did not say.

                  • null@piefed.nullspace.lol
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                    No, they just said a bunch of shit.

                    Can you tell me what coherent point anyone is supposed to pull of that manic stream of consciousness?