• Sauvandu60@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    I doubt Denmark could fend off the U.S., especially since other NATO countries are likely just monitoring the situation rather than taking action.

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      There are multiple countries having dialogues to plan their actions.

      This is no longer a situation where the US can simply walk in and take what it wants and getting a big payoff instead of facing consequences.

      Allies will form. Even the worst segment of the US population doesn’t want WWIII, a civil war yes, but they don’t want their kids drafted to die over the annex of Greenland.

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      24 hours ago

      The Nordics are pretty great at arctic warfare, just look at how well the Finns did. Pretty much all their gear are usable in arctic conditions and they train regularly for guerrilla warfare in extreme cold. The situation for the US is not the same. Most of their gear will not work in the winter in Greenland.

      Im not saying they will win, i just mean that it’s more complex than having the larger gun.

      However, the US are about to loose big in trade. Who the hell will want to buy American?

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        22 hours ago

        The Russians still fear the Finns. Every now and then they get a bit froggy, and the Finns just flip them the bird, and spit in their general direction, and the Russkies scurry on home.

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        21 hours ago

        However, the US are about to loose big in trade. Who the hell will want to buy American?

        Australian’s. Yes, we’re arseholes.

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      They might do a good enough job to not make it worth taking, though it’s a bit of a hard thing to judge when the invading force isn’t using logic

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        This is the only goal the Europe can aim for. Force the U.S. to take a step that they don’t want to, and that they will lose because of. They won’t lose militarily, but they could lose politically and economically in the long tern.

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          13 hours ago

          Absolutely. America is hugely reliant on the world economy, I just hope people commit to that and don’t just go with whatever America is saying.

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      21 hours ago

      These are the descendants of Vikings. Let’s settle it with a cage match between Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller, and a Viking of their choice.

      No tapping out, hand-to-hand battle to the death.

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      The US has a military base in Greenland already. Pituffik Space Base doesn’t appear to be going anywhere, despite all the bluster.

      And as the US is the military backbone of NATO, I’m not seeing how NATO as an institution would respond with the leadership structure and base management riddled with American personal.

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        21 hours ago

        At some point, NATO will have to acknowledge that America is NOT part of their alliance, at least not at this moment. If Russia were to attack Europe, or China were to take Taiwan, Trump wouldn’t do a thing about it.

        If a real American ever gets into the White House, and not a corrupt traitor pedophile, maybe NATO will have us back, as long as we clean up our act and purge MAGA from our government and society.

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          If Russia were to attack Europe, or China were to take Taiwan, Trump wouldn’t do a thing about it.

          Trump’s cabinet is stuffed to the brim with people who are crazy enough to fight a war with China. What they can’t handle is China not invading Taiwan and, instead, stacking up China-friendly political allies on the island until the Parliament tips their way.

          Meanwhile, Russians are damned near out of gas. They barely have the manpower to control that eastern slice of Ukraine. If they launched attacks into the European mainland and provoked a real material response from a combined Western Europe, they would be in huge trouble. But, again, that was never really Putin’s intention. He’s been building up alliances with white nationalist parties all across the continent. By 2030, you’re going to have a swath of ultra-nationalists running every Parliament from the AfD in Germany to Reform UK.

          And he’s going to be doing it in coordination with Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkiye, and India. Countries America bribed into a temporary alliance aren’t going to be there when the US economy goes into another recessionary tailspin. That’s what will really fuck NATO up.

          And all this happening on the eve of a climate catastrophe, too.

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            FINALLY! Someone with some Critical Thinking Skills who gets what’s really happening. I’ve been arguing with people who think that Trump, Russia, and China are all acting totally independently. There is no possible way that they are carving up the world into three showers of influence, despite daily obvious evidence of it EVERY DAY.

            And I can’t even start to worry about the climate right now. I’ve got zombies on my doorstep, demanding that I voluntarily offer myself up for enslavement, I can’t worry about what’s going on down the street right now.

            Excellent post.

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              And I can’t even start to worry about the climate right now.

              That’s a shame, because we are fucking in for it as the Colorado dries up in our winter heat wave. Nevermind what’s going to happen to Poland or Macedonia. I’d be worried what happens between Utah, Arizona, Nevada, and California during the next growing season.