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    I don’t think a lot of westerners can comprehend the idea that Iranian religious conservatives might be as angry with their liberal president as expat liberals are with the Guardian Council. The county isn’t going to secularize because of a drought.

    Nevermind how Masoud Pezeshkian getting the Maduro treatment (or the Ismail Haniyeh treatment) summons desperately needed rain and snow.

    This is a climate change disaster, but people keep talking about it like Iran’s water shortage can be solved at the ballot box. Might as well try voting for the Titanic to stop sinking.

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      The government has mismanaged its resources for decades. It’s not just about the water, but also about draconian measures towards their own citizens, while their children party abroad.

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        The government has mismanaged its resources for decades.

        “Water exists! Food exists! They’re just hiding it from us!” is going to be the Big Lie of global politics as the climate crisis compounds.

        That, and lots of people doing prayer circles for rain that never comes.

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          Building dams in rivers who do not have enough water to sustain dams might be a dumb idea. Who could have thought that putting the Revolutionary Guards in charge of Water Management would lead to catastrophe?

          Take the Karun River: once the largest and only navigable river, the economic arm of the IRGC built so many dams along its course that people downstream had to be evacuated because the Karun just could not support their agriculture. The Gotvand Dam alone turned the water below it from potable water to a brine solution 5 times as salty as the Persian Gulf. The IRGC’s dam construction arm, Sepahsad, was explicitly warned that this would happen.

          The IRI ran headfirst into a water crisis and is now reaping the rewards. They could have made their water system more resilient to climate change by reviving the qanat systems, but that’s not profitable for Sepahsad. So they didn’t.

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            Building dams in rivers who do not have enough water to sustain dams might be a dumb idea.

            Tell that to everyone managing the Colorado River Valley.

            When energy is expensive and water is cheap, you make decisions differently than when the situation is reversed

            The IRI ran headfirst into a water crisis and is now reaping the rewards

            The IRI don’t control snowfall in the Zagros. And replacing them with some Shah aligned goons won’t refill the Qanat system.

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              When energy is expensive and water is cheap

              Water has never been cheap in Iran, but go on.

              No, the IRI is not controlling the Snowfall in the Zagros. But it did control its water management and chose to fuck it up. The dams of Iran have massive consequences on its water budget. Once again, Sepahsad built more dams than necessary in place where dams were a net negative for the country. And they knew from the very beginning that this would be the case.

              The qanat system doesn’t need to be refilled, it needs to be maintained and reinstated. Same with any actual fucking protection of groundwater. Industrial run-off in Iran is treated like a nuisance at best.

              No, replacing the Allah aligned ghouls with Shah aligned ghouls won’t change much. Luckily, I am not advocating for shah aligned ghouls.

              Getting crucial infrastructure out of the hands of a religious army might actually have positive consequences, believe it or not.

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                Water has never been cheap in Iran

                You’re talking out your ass.

                Industrial run-off in Iran is treated like a nuisance at best.

                Why on earth do you think a reinstatement of the Shah would change that? Look at Iraq. Look at Syria. Look at Honduras right now. Look at Haiti.

                Have any of their ecological issues improved after Western regime change went into effect?

                Getting crucial infrastructure out of the hands of a religious army might actually have positive consequences

                That’s not what is being proposed. You’re talking about changing military leadership through armed insurrection and outside intervention.

                You’re talking about proxy rule by Israel.

                None of this improves the Iranian water reserves. None of it brings in more precipitation.