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    I myself don’t condemn the action itself, Maduro had it coming and so do all the other anti-democratic despots of the world. I place the greater good of all future people above my own comfort.

    But Trump should be punished just as any other president should, this is not their power to do.

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      The entire purpose of economic sanctions on Venezuela is to prevent free elections, because free elections gave rise to the Bolivarian revolution. This is not me making it up, this is literally the US policy as said by themselves with economic sanctioning:

      1. The majority of Cubans support Castro (the lowest estimate I have seen is 50 percent).

      2.There is no effective political opposition.

      3.Fidel Castro and other members of the Cuban Government espouse or condone communist influence.

      4.Communist influence is pervading the Government and the body politic at an amazingly fast rate.

      5.Militant opposition to Castro from without Cuba would only serve his and the communist cause.

      6.The only foreseeable means of alienating internal support is through disenchantment and disaffection based on economic dissatisfaction and hardship.

      If the above are accepted or cannot be successfully countered, it follows that every possible means should be undertaken promptly to weaken the economic life of Cuba. If such a policy is adopted, it should be the result of a positive decision which would call forth a line of action which, while as adroit and inconspicuous as possible, makes the greatest inroads in denying money and supplies to Cuba, to decrease monetary and real wages, to bring about hunger, desperation and overthrow of government.

      By arguing about elections without taking sanctions into account, you’re just being a CIA stooge

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        I can’t tell if you’re being facetious of if you actually think Venezuela is Cuba? After Cuba aligned with the USSR at the height of the cold war and became a single party dictatorship, economic suppression seems like a tame response. You realize they almost set off WWIII?

        I feel like support for Castro would plummet harshly if any opposition were allowed on it’s soil, but it was not.

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          The document: Cubans are overwhelmingly in support of communism, so we need to starve them

          The most “democratic” westerner: OF COURSE WE STARVED THEM, THEY DIDN’T HAVE TWO PARTIES

          Just so you know: US + EU economic sanctions have murdered 38 million people in the past 50 years, and continue to murder half a million yearly. “Tame suppression”

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            Starved? They were primarily an agricultural economy. Maybe if Castro grew something other than Tobacco less people would have died, idk why every communist country has this dumb initiation ritual where they kill off large sums of their own people.

            BTW it says the opposite of support for revolution. The USA caused their revolution and gained them self-governance before they CHOSE to live under Castro’s dictatorship.

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              I updated my response with scientific medical evidence that US and EU sanctions directly murder half a million people a year. You are literally a murderous maniac if you support that.

              For fucks sake, the document literally says “TO BRING ABOUT HUNGER AND DESPERATION”, you obtuse motherfucker

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                The fact that you blame the extreme poverty and lack of human rights in those nations on the nations who refuse to cooperate with them over their violent tendencies and affiliations, rather than those nations themselves, is absurd, honestly.

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                  IT IS NOT ME BLAMING ANYTHING, IT’S THE USA ADMITTING THIS THEMSELVES BY SAYING “WE WANT TO BRING HUNGER AND DESPERATION”, AND IT’S SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE OF THE EFFECTS OF SANCTIONS.

                  USA: “WE LITERALLY WANT TO STARVE CUBA BECAUSE IT’S THE ONLY WAY TO REMOVE POPULAR SUPPORT FROM COMMUNISM”

                  Smartest imperialism apologist: “smh can’t believe you’re blaming anyone else than the commies”

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                    I GUESS WE’RE DOING ALL CAPITAL LETTERS, NOW. HEY REMEMBER THAT DOCUMENT SAYING THAT CUTTING OFF TRADE WITH AN AGRICULTURAL ECONOMY NATION WOULD CAUSE THEM TO STARVE AND BE IMPOVERISHED? I WOULD SAY THAT’S A BIT OF A SKILL ISSUE ON THAT NATION’S GOVERNMENT.

                    WHY IS REFUSING TO SAVE THEM FROM THEIR OWN MISMANAGEMENT, A SECOND TIME I MIGHT ADD, SOMEHOW THE USA’S FAULT?