Did you know pepper spray isn’t as effective on some people as others? Even more so if the person is on certain drugs? Did you know that if an assailant is pretty close to you already or the wind is blowing at you, the pepper spray may leave you just as bad off as an attacker, or that pepper spray won’t make a person drop a knife?
Hitting someone with pepper spray is fairly likely to stop an attack. Hitting someone with bullets will stop an attack.
How many school shooting has been done using pepper spray vs guns?
How many unintentional discharches has let to death with pepper spray vs guns?
How many drive by’s have been done with stolen/illegal pepper sprays vs guns?
How many times police officers have been killes by a pepper spray vs gun, that perp took from the victims house?
How many times officers have mistaked victim as threath when they have had pepper spray vs gun on them?
Did you know that if assailant is pretty close to you or if you panic even a little, you might shoot yourself or miss the assailant completelly when pulling the trigger? Missing a shot won’t make a person to drop a knife. Using gun may lead to somebody elses death than attackers.
If normal civilians did not have so many guns there would be less guns in rotation in the streets. The less there are guns in rotation the more expensive they are. Normal thugs wont use guns in petty robbery if they costs 15 000$ in black market, but if they can buy one from the street with 300$ you bet your ass the robber will bring the gun.
Also when its likelly that the perps have guns police will always act like they have guns leading to police using violence and excess force also in situations where its not needed.
You’re talking like you’ll be able to live in a country that could magically remove all the guns, keep em out, and never possibly need any against a tyrannical government.
I live in a country where there are about 30 guns per 100 citizens and over half of the adult males have served conscription and we have one of the lowest amount of gun related violence in the world because strick gun control
The tyrannical goverment argument is strawman. USA alredy has soldiers (national guard) walking in cities, minorities are unlafully detained by troops without showing any signia or seemingly needing any due process for their acts. Bombing and attacking neighboring countries, sinking civilian ships on international waters. 1.25 million citizens are in federal custody in system that is designed around to keep minorities in prisons whitout any care of rehibiliating them because the law essentially gives the goverment the right to use them as a slave labor. Your workers rights are a joke where any employee can be fired without any reason, unless they have managed to somehow unionise in the system that gives companies every change they can to crush unionising.
The second amendment is joke that people seem to cling on thinking some addition made to a paper, your president seem to ignore at every turn it suits them, would be somehow relevant in after hundreds of years have passes since people who wrote it have allready died. If it had any real meaning in the original meaning, there would allready be some militia rattling around.
Just google little around and look how mysteriously in countries with strick gun laws have less gun releated violence.
So most of your argument seems to not have much to do with what is being discussed and a lot more to do with pivoting over to our government that’s gotten all fucked up. Shouldn’t you be off standing in a field somewhere?
And how excactly you responded to my comment about the pepper spray? Or how gun violence and gun laws go in hand to hand? Look how Australias statistic went down after 1996. Must be coincidence that after gun law reform fatalities with guns went down.
I went on a rant about your “militia against the tyrannical goverment” bull. Its just convinient excuse for cowboys to feel good owning guns.
Australia is a globally poor country (by total in the country. Individually you’re doing well) with a small population surrounded by a lot of water.
If you think things that work in a country like Australia with a mere 27 million people can work the same as a place like the USA with a population of 340 million and land bordered with Mexico and Canada, you’re thinking like a child.
How about europe? EU alone has 450 million people with higher density living than USA and neighbors like Russia, Turkey and very short boat ride to Afrika and middle east, not to mention recent and not so recent wars that left millions of guns and and even more munitions, and explosives in the cellars and attics of people.
USA has multitudes of more gun related violence than whole EU.
I just cant understand how you guys see the problem and just resist doing anything to it. Like its some great victory for freedom to have children have to do shooter drills in schools. Espesially when there are so easy steps you could do.
Did you know pepper spray isn’t as effective on some people as others? Even more so if the person is on certain drugs? Did you know that if an assailant is pretty close to you already or the wind is blowing at you, the pepper spray may leave you just as bad off as an attacker, or that pepper spray won’t make a person drop a knife?
Hitting someone with pepper spray is fairly likely to stop an attack. Hitting someone with bullets will stop an attack.
How many school shooting has been done using pepper spray vs guns?
How many unintentional discharches has let to death with pepper spray vs guns?
How many drive by’s have been done with stolen/illegal pepper sprays vs guns?
How many times police officers have been killes by a pepper spray vs gun, that perp took from the victims house?
How many times officers have mistaked victim as threath when they have had pepper spray vs gun on them?
Did you know that if assailant is pretty close to you or if you panic even a little, you might shoot yourself or miss the assailant completelly when pulling the trigger? Missing a shot won’t make a person to drop a knife. Using gun may lead to somebody elses death than attackers.
If normal civilians did not have so many guns there would be less guns in rotation in the streets. The less there are guns in rotation the more expensive they are. Normal thugs wont use guns in petty robbery if they costs 15 000$ in black market, but if they can buy one from the street with 300$ you bet your ass the robber will bring the gun.
Also when its likelly that the perps have guns police will always act like they have guns leading to police using violence and excess force also in situations where its not needed.
You’re talking like you’ll be able to live in a country that could magically remove all the guns, keep em out, and never possibly need any against a tyrannical government.
I live in a country where there are about 30 guns per 100 citizens and over half of the adult males have served conscription and we have one of the lowest amount of gun related violence in the world because strick gun control
The tyrannical goverment argument is strawman. USA alredy has soldiers (national guard) walking in cities, minorities are unlafully detained by troops without showing any signia or seemingly needing any due process for their acts. Bombing and attacking neighboring countries, sinking civilian ships on international waters. 1.25 million citizens are in federal custody in system that is designed around to keep minorities in prisons whitout any care of rehibiliating them because the law essentially gives the goverment the right to use them as a slave labor. Your workers rights are a joke where any employee can be fired without any reason, unless they have managed to somehow unionise in the system that gives companies every change they can to crush unionising.
The second amendment is joke that people seem to cling on thinking some addition made to a paper, your president seem to ignore at every turn it suits them, would be somehow relevant in after hundreds of years have passes since people who wrote it have allready died. If it had any real meaning in the original meaning, there would allready be some militia rattling around.
Just google little around and look how mysteriously in countries with strick gun laws have less gun releated violence.
Good for you. I’m American and our culture is sick to the roots. It’s not the number of guns per capita, it’s the sick people.
So most of your argument seems to not have much to do with what is being discussed and a lot more to do with pivoting over to our government that’s gotten all fucked up. Shouldn’t you be off standing in a field somewhere?
And how excactly you responded to my comment about the pepper spray? Or how gun violence and gun laws go in hand to hand? Look how Australias statistic went down after 1996. Must be coincidence that after gun law reform fatalities with guns went down.
I went on a rant about your “militia against the tyrannical goverment” bull. Its just convinient excuse for cowboys to feel good owning guns.
Australia is a globally poor country (by total in the country. Individually you’re doing well) with a small population surrounded by a lot of water.
If you think things that work in a country like Australia with a mere 27 million people can work the same as a place like the USA with a population of 340 million and land bordered with Mexico and Canada, you’re thinking like a child.
How about europe? EU alone has 450 million people with higher density living than USA and neighbors like Russia, Turkey and very short boat ride to Afrika and middle east, not to mention recent and not so recent wars that left millions of guns and and even more munitions, and explosives in the cellars and attics of people.
USA has multitudes of more gun related violence than whole EU.
I just cant understand how you guys see the problem and just resist doing anything to it. Like its some great victory for freedom to have children have to do shooter drills in schools. Espesially when there are so easy steps you could do.
We don’t get gassed on trains.