• ExtremeDullard@piefed.socialOP
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    5 days ago

    Dem vs GOP isn’t a zero-sum game: presidents and administrations of both stripes have consistently been terrible. They’re just slightly different flavors of imperialism.

    Also, what someone else woulda/coulda/shoulda done in an alternate reality is irrelevant.

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        1. Ngô Đình Diệm leader of south Vietnam - JFK
        2. Mohammed Farah Aidid leader of Somalian rebel group - Clinton
        3. Osama bin Laden- Obama
        4. Muammar Gaddafi - Obama

        No qualitative statement about any of those men. Just a list

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            Bin Laden was the head of a transitional group seeking to establish Islamist control. While Al Qaeda did not have official recognition as a sovereign state, they were a well known and established organization.

            The US and NATO were heavily involved in the regime change in Libya. US strikes disabled the convoy Qaddafi was in that immediately led to his capture.

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              “transitional group with no official recognition” is a funny way of spelling terrorists.

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              It was a NATO strike that disabled the convoy before Gaddafi and those closest to him fled to a nearby villa, which was shelled by rebel militia from Misrata.

              You’re really stretching here my dude.

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                By my count, that’s two who weren’t heads of state; one team effort with nato and locals; and one from before most of the current electorate was alive, never mind voting.