“There are 15 million illegal aliens,” Miller said adding that “if each were given a full trial, deportations would take centuries”

White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller said in a video that went viral on Friday that undocumented immigrants are not entitled to due process protections when being removed from the United States, arguing that providing full legal proceedings would make deportations unworkable.

“There are 15 million illegal aliens,” Miller said. “If each were given a full trial, deportations would take centuries. They had no due process entering the country, and they are not entitled to it when being removed.”

Supreme Court precedent has long held that constitutional protections apply to noncitizens within U.S. territory. In Wong Wing v. United States (1896), the Court ruled that the Fifth Amendment’s due process clause protects noncitizens from arbitrary detention or punishment.

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    No he didn’t.

    Both times they eventually let him go before taking him anywhere.

    Did you even read it first, or did you read it and just not understand what’s happening?

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      They declare you an “illegal alien” and take you into custody

      But as he is documented and has an ID, even though they claimed it could be false, they had to check and then released him.

      Were there cases of actually documented/legal immigrants being deported? I saw about undocumented children that would technically be citizens for being born in the USA but had no documents to prove it so they were deported alongside parents… I’m not judging the morality of it, but if people that had “due process” to enter are getting “due process” when detained, then the deputy statement is not contradictory.

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        hey had to check and then released him

        No they didn’t.

        They did check, thought it was real, and release him…

        But that’s not always what happens, and still isn’t “due process”, which at this point I’m sure you don’t know what it actually means.

        but if people that had “due process” to enter are getting “due process” when detained, then the deputy statement is not contradictory.

        What are you talking about?

        Do you legitimately think that because one person didn’t get the worst possible result, no one does?

        If you heard someone drove drunk without getting a DUI, would you suddenly start telling everyone no one can get a DUI and driving drunk is safe because that one drunk didn’t cause an accident?

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          Do you legitimately think that because one person didn’t get the worst possible result, no one does?

          I just asked it. I’m not from the USA, I don’t follow your news. I know illegals aren’t getting due process because there was quite a coverage of the first batch of deportees we received back in January. They were all chained and humiliated, and the way they were treated caused a diplomatic ruckus. However, I haven’t heard about actual citizens being deported (but again, I don’t really follow your news). As I said, I myself have relatives living in the USA, and of course the first thing I asked them was how things were there with ICE and shit, but they didn’t mention being harassed or anything. Well, one is blue-eyed, so she is probably not getting racially profiled, but the other looks latina af - but she is also an army medic and probably carries some army ID in case she is stopped by ICE or something.

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            I just asked it.

            You think what you’re doing is asking questions?

            You literally haven’t used a single question mark once…

            You don’t fucking understand any of what is happening, but you keep insisting that you know more. Even now that you’re finally admitting you don’t know what you’re talking about, you immediately go back to insisting you’re right

            Despite me and others explaining over and over again what you’re not understanding.

            Just why?

            What the fuck are you trying to do here if you admit you’re ignorant but refuse to listen to anyone?

            You just keep repeating far right talking points over and over again.

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              You literally haven’t used a single question mark once…

              Guy says illegals won’t be getting due process, reaction is that everyone won’t be getting due process, I say that’s not what he said and ask if that’s happening (no one getting due process)… everyone mad as fuck lol

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                The problem with denying due process to any group is that it can then be denied to anyone simply by claiming they’re a member of that group. The implications are horrifying; the government could deport anyone it wants even if they’re a citizen with ample proof that they are because the opportunity to show that proof is what the law means when it guarantees the right to due process.

                People are frustrated because you don’t seem to acknowledge this problem.