• Tinidril@midwest.social
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    13 hours ago

    I get the sarcasm, but I think the case can be made that it’s the exact opposite. Zionism is terrible for the Jews, both in the mythology and real wold consequences.

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      5 hours ago

      Zionism is awesome for Jews. They get special treatment and their own ethnostate where they get to steal houses and land from other people simply because they are Jewish.

      80%+ of Jews worldwide support Israel for that reason. Because it benefits Jews and they are Jews and thus Israel benefits them.

      Slavery wasn’t “awful for white people because it gave them a bad rep” either. It very much directly benefitted them.

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        Zionism is awesome for Jews.

        After WW2 Jews essentially had a cultural golden ticket. They could have perpetually ridden the wave of being treated as the world’s most victimized group forever. There was almost nothing worse a person could be than an anti-semite or Holocaust denier. Zionism broke that spell, and “anti-semite” has become a bad joke.

        80%+ of Jews worldwide support Israel

        Support Israel how though? 80% certainly don’t support the current government, or the settlements. Also, look how many Americans support(ed) Trump. Does that mean Trump is “awesome” for Americans, or even for his supporters?

        Slavery … directly benefitted them.

        I disagree. There were certainly material benefits but, ultimately, I don’t think anyone is better off because of slavery. America still is unable to reconcile with it’s own history, and that has had some pretty obvious consequences for everyone.

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          Not at all. The Holocaust industry only took off after the 70s and mostly because intense Israeli lobbying efforts. This becomes very obvious when you see Holocaust museums supporting the modern day Holocaust in Gaza in the most twisted irony possible.

          There is no such thing as the “current Israeli government”. Israel is a Jewish surpremacist ethnostate and has been so since its inception. It’s like “supporting Nazi Germany but that Hitler guy isn’t very cool”. Nazi Germany didn’t revolve solely around Hitler. If he didn’t exist some other guy would have been be the Fuhrer.

          The entire industrial revolution was powered by slavery. Your logic makes no sense.