I guess I expect more from a progressive leader than “Welp what can we possibly do on climate in the face of consumerism?” I think there is a clear path forward, and that’s making investments to move off of fossil fuels. And part of that means stopping government handouts to fossil fuel companies, stop lowering CAFE standards, etc.

(I also wasn’t particularly impressed with the interviewee in that interview. I realize she’s a writer and not a talking head used to generating pithy soundbites, but still.)