Jus cannot believe libs still think they’re just a “defense” organization LMBO

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    Guaranteed the NATO countries, especially the US and UK, have been engaging in offensive cyber warfare against Russia for over a decade, at least.

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      If they are then that means one of two things 1. They suck at it or 2.Russia is scary good at blocking it.

      The fact that china felt the need to isolate their people from the global net, yet russia didn’t makes me think nato just isn’t that good at aggressive cyber psyops.

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        The US literally invented the Internet. It controlled all of the technology for years. It codeveloped it with the military. Every single major tech company has deep ties to the US military. Many of US tech companies are actually spinoffs from military projects. And US tech dominated the global market. And the tech companies are installing backdoors at the behest of the military (Snowden leaks).

        The embargos/sanctions against Russia likely creates tons of opportunity for Russia to develop alternative technologies so they are less dependent on US persistent threats, I mean product.

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          17 hours ago

          And yet they elected trump, and are clearly being manipulated by foreign agents. They may have invented it but it wouldn’t be the first time the creator failed to fully utilise their creation.

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            17 hours ago

            A, that’s not cyber warfare. That’s cyber propaganda. B, Americans don’t need foreign influence to be racist misogynist violent jingoistic bigots.

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              A. I said cyber PSYOPS not warfare and there is an argument to be made that propaganda IS a form of warfare (Eg it is according to russian doctrine). B. There has been a distinct upwards trend in American cuntishness over the last 15 years, well more of a dropping of the mask.

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                11 hours ago

                You never said the word psyops in any of these comments. What the fuck?

                If things have gotten worse in the last 15 years, I’m certain it is because of the state of the American psyche and not because of some foreign propaganda.

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                  7 hours ago

                  Literally the last word in my first comment. Russia launched a psyop in 2009 aimed at causing unrest in western democracies

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                    Sorry. What thread do you think you’re on right now?

                    Oh, I see. You just added psyops to the thread by saying you think NATO isn’t good at psyops on a thread about cyber warfare.

                    Look, let’s just end the discussion. I don’t need people getting confused about which of us is the fool.