Ending hunger by 2030 would cost just $93 billion a year — less than one per cent of the $21.9 trillion spent on military budgets over the past decade, according to the UN World Food Programme (WFP).

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    5 hours ago

    Slightly philosophical question, but what does “ending world hunger” mean? Spending 1% of military budget to feed everyone once? Hiring lifelong farmers to build out fields and grow food? Would not food security lead to higher birth rates, which would eventually lead to higher food requirements, when sometimes it already feels somewhat unsustainable? I’m just confused at the meaning behind “ending world hunger”

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      what does “ending world hunger” mean?

      Distributing agricultural surplus at market rate relative to population demand rather than market demand.

      Would not food security lead to higher birth rates

      Firstly, no.

      The higher the degree of education and GDP per capita of a human population, subpopulation or social stratum, the fewer children are born in any developed country.[

      Pulling people out of starvation tends to reduce family sizes, as people don’t plan their families with the expectation of high levels of child mortality.

      Secondly, “you need to starve to death because we’re afraid you might live long enough to have kids” is a fucked public policy on the scale of Israeli genocide in Gaza.

      Finally,

      lead to higher food requirements, when sometimes it already feels somewhat unsustainable?

      Sustainability is a consequence of land use policy, not population rate. India and China are the classic case studies of this in practice. But you can see the pattern repeated across the planet.

      Vegetarian agriculture is significantly less taxing on the ecology than animal agriculture. When you compare arable land requirements per Ethiopia, Bangledish, or Thailand residents to the dietary demands of Americans, Israelis, or Argentinians, what you discover is the enormous toll animal farming takes.

      The unsustainable clear cutting of jungle and near-malicious misuse of limited irrigation drives up costs and cripples availability in even the wealthiest (and most thinly populated) nations on Earth.

      Meanwhile, significantly more populace regions can thrive on a primarily vegetarian diet.

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        Secondly, “you need to starve to death because we’re afraid you might live long enough to have kids” is a fucked public policy on the scale of Israeli genocide in Gaza.

        I feel the need to defend myself and say that this was not my thinking process. My perspective was purely based on places like China and India. I doubt many are actually starving, but would not you say that the population itself is a bit too much for the region and long term sustainability? Maybe I’m indeed wrong and this is not a problem

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      It says 96b, less than 1% of military spending over the last decade, which imo is a misleading way of framing things. It would then be approximately 10% of average annual military expenditure over the last decade.

      Looks like a larger slice of the military spending pie so looks less like news. But it’s what it is.

      Also lifting regions out of nutritional poverty has knock on effects on development, education and general economic participation. It’s an absolute win all around. Even for shareholders as market size and productive, sustainable and educated labour pool grows.

      The rest of the military budget should be used for education, infrastructure and environmental protection. They are all absolute wins.

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        Excuse me for being skeptical, but I’ve been hearing about ending world hunger for 3 decades now, and if it’s as easy as moving only 1% of the military budget, then… I just feel like there’s more to this than media tells us on the surface level

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          so your are suspicious the military industrial complex is not willing to part with billions to gift away?

          yeah, that sure is evidence they do not think ending world hunger is not feasible and not evidence of greed and corruption, no sir