Get paid ladies. Sad that it happened.
In May, during a Kentucky Derby-themed event held at the hotel, Ansley Baker and Liz Victor said they were using a women’s multi-occupant restroom when a security guard entered and began banging on stall doors. The guard accused Baker of being a “man in the women’s bathroom,” Baker alleged, yelled that “no men are allowed,” and told her to leave. Baker said she and Victor were “heckled” by other women in line for the bathroom as they were escorted to the lobby, and even after she showed her ID with an “F” gender marker, security forced both of them to leave the hotel.
this story is so dumb … the article leaves out the guard’s gender, but imagine you’re a woman using the restroom and a big dude comes knocking on all the stalls … like, isn’t this the very nightmare case that the conservatives are screeching about with trans women - that men violate women’s spaces?
So the guard knocks on stalls and then physically removes a cis woman from the women’s restroom, then kicks her off the property even after she proves she’s a woman … even worse, the idiocy of the guard is bolstered by the women in line for the bathroom …
Meanwhile, I’m a trans woman, having used restrooms along with bigoted women who are entirely clueless that I’m not cis … they don’t actually care, they can’t even tell - what’s the point? The anti-trans panic has mostly victimized cis women, and when trans people comply with the transphobic policies by using the bathroom of their assigned sex, they get the same treatment: harassed out of the bathrooms, punished, or worse - subjected to assault or rape.
I’m not going to pretend we don’t know why these policies exist, the people who created and push the policies are activists aiming to eliminate trans people, they want to eradicate us entirely - the end goal is to criminalize being trans, to forcefully detransition us in prisons, and when young people present as gender dysphoric, to go back to what they did in the 1960s like electroshock, lobotomies, and institutionalization.
The nicer alternative in the meantime is conversion therapy, which was found to double the risk of suicide … conversion therapy goes against science, medicine, and ethics, which is why so many states have legislation against it.
This isn’t about bathrooms, this is about terrorizing trans people back into the closet.
This isn’t about bathrooms, this is about terrorizing trans people back into the closet.
The same could be said about any trans-related issues brought up by the right. Bathrooms, sports, all of it. They just want us out of sight.
yes, it is the underlying motivation for all of it, they don’t care about fairness in sports or women’s spaces at all
Don’t get why the one on the left was kicked out. Makes no sense regardless of your political leaning.
The one on the right… it begs the question, if a cis woman can be kicked out of a women’s bathroom for not looking feminine enough, rude and wrong as that is… is she supposed to go in the men’s room?
The real question being begged is, can we just get individual bathrooms in public? That’s the real answer. As a man, I don’t want to share a bathroom with other guys. Not because I’m threatened by them, but because bathroom time is private time.
Alternatively, we could just have coed communal bathrooms everyone uses, everyone uses a stall, everyone washes their hands in the same line. Fathers of daughters might be upset, but they could go in with them.
All this bathroom shit is dumb as hell. Focus on the addicts shooting up in bathrooms, get them the help they need, leave everyone else the hell alone.
Hope they get millions. Would be better if it happened in the Deep South but we know they wouldn’t get shit.
Alternatively, we could just have coed communal bathrooms everyone uses, everyone uses a stall, everyone washes their hands in the same line. Fathers of daughters might be upset, but they could go in with them.
Seattle has done this in a few places! The city just redid a park along the downtown waterfront, and put in a big communal bathroom, and I’ve seen a couple at the SeaTac airport too. Maybe I’m a bit biased as a trans woman, but it really seems like the best solution to me.
if a cis woman can be kicked out of a women’s bathroom for not looking feminine enough, rude and wrong as that is…
Here’s the thing: it was never about “protecting women” or something. It was always about controlling how a woman is supposed to look, act, etc like. Women who are not “feminine enough” are not supposed to exist.
Fathers of daughters might be upset, but they could go in with them.
Most of them, especially fathers with younger daughters who still need some help with the toilet, will probably be relieved. Because nowadays it feels very weird being a father who wants to help his daughter with toilet things starting at choosing the appropriate restroom, being stared down or being scared of reactions.
Bunch of stalls up front, bunch of urinals down the back, bunch of sinks, uni sex.
I always use the sink, doesn’t matter if it’s a 1 or a 2
My main issue with coed is that too many guys piss on the seat and floor and couldn’t be bothered to clean it.
I live in Stockholm and people here generally have good bathroom etiquette, and a lot of places are coed, but last week I was in a bar, and a dude came out of the womens bathroom, and I ended up having to clean his piss off of the seat.
Make men sit too or something before you implement coed in the rest of the world.
To be fair, in my experience women are far more often guilty of pissing the whole toilet in bars because they hover above the toilet while peeing. Guys just lift the lid.
having cleaned both men and women’s restrooms for a living, I can confirm the women’s is often just as dirty as the men’s
(overall I personally felt women’s restrooms were worse; I’ve never had to clean up blood in a men’s restroom, but it wasn’t infrequent that there was blood on the floor and seats in women’s restrooms)
As CBS affiliate WBZ-TV noted, the hotel claimed days later that Baker and Victor had used the same stall together and that one of them “put their hands on our security team[.]” Both women denied those allegations, and MCAD’s statement last week said the hotel had released a “false statement to the media,” which the commission found to constitute unlawful retaliation. The guard who initiated the incident no longer works at the hotel, the station reported.
“We deeply regret that our initial statement may have created unintended impressions about the actions of Ansley and Liz. That was not our intent…”
“Unintended impressions” lolol
“we’re sorry we lied now that we’re in trouble for it”
