Online pornography showing strangulation or suffocation is to be made illegal, as part of government plans to tackle violence against women and girls.

It follows a review which found depictions of choking were “rife” on mainstream porn sites and had helped normalise the act among young people.

Both the possession and publication of such material will be a criminal offence, under amendments to the Crime and Policing Bill currently going through Parliament.

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    Hey, if you are cool with damaging your own brain sure, I draw the line when you choose to do it to someone else.

    If it was SO consensual why are guys not getting choked equally? The answer is it isn’t. It is about dominance and power not a consensual act.

    Furthermore, the majority of choking acts are not consensual and they also cause brain damage.

    I really fail to see where you are coming from.

    Edit: I reread your statement. You think banning choking depictions in porn is wrong. I see it as perpetuating abuse.

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      Okay this comment makes me think you don’t understand consent.

      If it was SO consensual why are guys not getting choked equally?

      My partner has fetishes I’m not into, but I engage in them because I want to give him the pleasure he gets from them. Is that not consentual because I’m not into the fetish?

      Consent doesn’t mean only doing things you’re into, it means you’re agreeing to it free from any pressure or influence on your decision and you know everything you need to know to make your decision.

      I won’t be choked and I wouldn’t choke someone because it is dangerous and I’m uncomfortable with it regardless of if the other person wants it. But as long as people consent and know the risks I don’t care what others do.

      The answer is it isn’t. It is about dominance and power not a consensual act.

      Dominance and power can absolutely be consentually engaged in. The bdsm community takes consent incredibly seriously.

      There are larger cultural elements behind what people are into that are worth examining. Cultural influence doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t consentual though.

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        You seem to think because “consent” it is okay. That is your failing and that is okay. You are very wrong about this particular topic and we will have to disagree here.

        This isn’t about a kink, this is about misogyny, brain damage, and perpetuating abuse. I swear kink culture is a cancer if it produces the kind of callousness and willful ignorance you display.

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            Your meme ignores reality, but go ahead and pat yourself on the back.

            Consent required all parties to know the consequences to be fully informed. When you coerce you partner into choking without the knowledge it is causing lasting permanent brain damage you are not getting consent.

            Kuhli says, “Hey baby can I give you brain death because it is my kink”

            There is no after care for brain damage. This is where the kink community needs to come together to put their foot down.

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              Consent require all parties to know the consequences to be fully informed

              Yes, that’s what I said earlier:

              “Consent doesn’t mean only doing things you’re into, it means you’re agreeing to it free from any pressure or influence on your decision and you know everything you need to know to make your decision.

              When I say I don’t care what people do as long as there’s consent, that’s a requirement built into that statement. The vast vast majority of choking isn’t consentual, that’s the issue we need to address.

              There is no after care for brain damage. This is where the kink community needs to come together to put their foot down.

              This isn’t a kink issue, it’s a mainstream issue.the kink community takes consent and safety incredibly seriously. In this case that’s stuff like roleplay choking or breathplay.

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                So then you admit that the majority of choking is without consent, unless you honestly think people are talking about the brain damage they are giving their partner. I am glad we can agree.

                It is a kink issue. It goes against the kink code because there is no after care possible. Until they take responsibility for the damage they cause it is not safe and therefore a betrayal of the movement.

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            Nope, not at all but misogyny is a driving factor in men choking women just like a lot of partner related abuse.