“At present, the lede and the overall presentation state, in Wikipedia’s voice, that Israel is committing genocide, although that claim is highly contested,” Wales said. He added that a “neutral approach would begin with a formulation such as: ‘Multiple governments, NGOs, and legal bodies have described or rejected the characterization of Israel’s actions in Gaza as genocide.’” Currently, the article bases its position that a genocide exists on conclusions from United Nations investigations, the International Association of Genocide Scholars, and “multiple human rights groups,” among others.
Yeah. But also people who are not are contesting it somewhat. E.g. brit government.
Brit gov is part of it:
source: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9964/
source: https://aoav.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/The-UK-Royal-Air-Forces-surveillance-flights-over-the-Occupied-Palestinian-Territory-examined.pdf
There are many more examples but these are the most obvious.
Supplying arms is not actively redrawing borders or starting a conflict. Profiteering might still be bad.
Providing intelligence is taking ACTIVE part in the genocide. Your comment claimed that UK government does not. Profiteering IS bad, you should remove the “might”.
I haven’t talked about borders or the start of the conflict, you are confusing threads/users. But if you mention it to me, you should read about The Balfour Declaration
The UK started the fucking genocide by giving away land that was not theirs to an entire religion/ethnic group who hadn’t been more than a minority in the region in all of recorded history.
Everyone denying the genocide is complicit or bought.
Britain did conquer the region, historically that’s how it’s changed hands between empires. The Ottoman’s took the land by conquest in the 16th century, taking it from the Mamluks who conquered it in the 13th century, taking it from the crusaders who conquered the area two hundred years before, who took it from the Rashidun Caliphate who conquered it in the 7th century, and on and on.
You are mental.
The UK did not redistribute land to Jerusalem this millennium. Claiming borders and deeds of old to justify (military) action is a book out of a warmongers playbook.
What does the turning of the millennium have to do with it? We’re still talking within a single person’s lifetime…
The active current genocide started in 23. The UK did not redraw borders to trigger it. It was triggered by a terror attack. Some have considered the attack inevitable due to continued oppression and border fences. Public opinion in Israel also does not appear to be influenced by the British.
let’s start with the easy one: this is completely irrelevant. public opinion is largely worthless and means nothing.
it started in the 1940s, arguably earlier.
the very first thing that happened in the region was Palestinians being expelled from their own land in order to make way for the zionist regime.
that’s how Palestinian oppression started, and it’s the reason the situation got so bad in the first place.
it got much, much worse in '23, but that’s not the start at all.
no, it was the other way around; ongoing genocide triggered the terrorist attack.
and more importantly:
is this supposed to mean that genocide can be justified? is that what you’re saying?
gee, i wonder how that oppression started in the first place… certainly couldn’t have been the british! they’d never meddle in the middle east for colonialist reasons!
well…except in afghanistan…and iraq…and syria…and egypt…wait, how long is this list anyway?
could the british empire be responsible for most of the clusterfuck that is the current middle east, by having drawn completely arbitrary lines on maps more than a century ago, which were deliberately designed to fence in diverse ethnic communities, with the explicit goal of suppressing the local populations by putting them in a constant state of unresolvable armed conflict in order to ensure instability in the region and as a result keeping education and living standards low, thus guaranteeing cheap oil for the foreseeable future by making it trivial to install dictatorships across the region?
…are you for fucking real?
(hawara, du saufst den lack aber auch im liter pack…)
The British empire would not have existed if the Romans had not colonised England, so technically this is all Italy’s fault.
Placing blame on entities that don’t exist anymore is silly. Italy didn’t even exist back then, so this makes your statement even more convoluted.
that fucking fish should have stayed in the ocean, where it belongs!!
or, alternatively:
The current invasion of Gaza was preceded by relative peace. You not liking Israel has been made to exist is fine. Does not change the facts, that Jewish people live in in Israel, policy changed substantially at that point, and so did public opinion in Israel.
A trigger is not a justification. A trigger does not justify genocide. A trigger is just a trigger. You read too much between the lines. Sometimes a sunrise is just a sunrise.
fucking peace.
no, you dum-dum:
just because YOU, personally, haven’t been reading, hearing, or seeing the perpetual violence against Palestinians (and muslims in general) in and around isreal, doesn’t mean it just appeared out of thin air, like you are suggesting.
well, not suggesting… you’re straight up lying.
you are using your own ignorance as basis of fact.
YOU are unaware of the hostilities happening, so you assume they DIDN’T happen. which is wrong.
this genocide didn’t just suddenly happen, it’s been going on for decades. it’s simply been a much slower process before (except for all the times in-between when it wasn’t slow at all, but I’m not about to copy-paste half o wikipedia. look it up if you don’t want to be ignorant), which makes no difference.
a genocide, by definition, is not bound to a certain timeframe; when a people is eradicated deliberately, it doesn’t matter at all how long that process took.
Palestinians have been under direct attack for almost century now. that entire time is a continuous state of genocide.
What a loser comment,
Relative peace to you and your Zionist friends.
they are literally destroying people home, killing their sheep, rape them in prison, and stealing their body parts, and soon death penalty to anyone resists. Along with continuous killing.
I am not in favor of killing the Palestinians. It is factual to say that the rate of death and humans rights violations did sharply change after the terror attack on that concert. So did the amount of tanks in Gaza. You cannot say that nothing changed or started from that.
It isIch vermute, dass die Geschichtsbücher in Ihrem Land Ihnen ein falsches Bild von der Entstehung des Staates Israel vermittelt haben. Nach dem Selbstmord von 88 und der Kapitulation Deutschlands wurden die vertriebenen Juden von Europa nach dort verschifft, England und ein Lord sind die Hauptursache für die Probleme, die seit 1946 entstanden sind
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English is my 4 language ,so screw yourself
In what way does this force you to use bad German? And why does this mean you must self censor?