The process has drawn criticism after high-profile incidents where men have died even before they donned military uniforms. On October 23, Ukrainian Roman Sopin died from heavy blunt trauma to the head after he had been forcibly recruited. Ukrainian authorities claim that he fell, but his family is taking legal action. In August, a conscripted man, 36, died suddenly at a recruitment center in Rivne, although the authorities claim he died of natural causes. In June, 45-year-old Ukrainian-Hungarian Jozsef Sebestyen died after he was beaten with iron bars following his forced conscription; the Ukrainian military denies this version of events. In August, a conscript died from injuries sustained after he jumped out of a moving vehicle that was transporting him to the recruitment center.
Look online and you’ll find a trove of thousands of incidents, with most of them filmed this year alone. You can find videos of a recruitment officer chasing a man and shooting at him, a man being choked to death on the street with a recruiter’s knee on his neck. Many include family members or friends fighting desperately to prevent their loved one being taken against his will.
If videos of this nature, on this systemic scale, were shared in the United States or the United Kingdom, I believe that members of the public would express serious concerns. Yet the Western media remains largely silent, and I find it difficult to understand why.
In the first half of 2025, over 110,000 desertion cases were reported in Ukraine. In 2024, Ukrainian prosecutors initiated over 89,000 proceedings related to desertion and unauthorized abandonment of units, a figure three-and-a-half times greater than in 2023. More than 20% of Ukraine’s one million-strong army have jumped the fence in the past four years, and the numbers are rising all the time.
“No news is bad news.”
This is why whenever we don’t hear Western media trying to prop up Ukraine, it’s because there’s nothing to prop up.
I’m curious, do people downvote it because even after 4 years of kidnappings with countless recordings of this happenning daily they still consider it “Russian propaganda”, or are we fully in the “yes, it’s happening, but it’s not a big deal and we shouldn’t talk about it”?
They fear too many people will start asking why Ukrainians don’t want to fight and die for America’s geopolitical interests
People justify their actions by the end result, just as Russia does, despite its despicable methods. It’s still war after all
I assume because they haven’t seen the openly published evidence of them TORTURING and generally flogging, threatening their conscripts.
Banning all footage and articles of this from lib servers is a surefire way to keep their narrative alive. Along with calling anyone who dares mention this a Putin troll.
Of course we need to talk about problems, im not very invested nor do i know much about the situation, i did however see this video : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J9niN4jiRig where the desertion problem was discussed. @ 12:10 -ish into the video. Basically what is said is that there is a problem where they cant choose what unit they sign up to but if they desert and then come back within a couple of days they can enlist again and choose their prefered unit, dont know if its true but that is also a take on the situation.
The Quincy Institute lmfao, this Anatol Lieven guy still believes Ukrainian official casualty figures & battlefield claims. So if you take issue with them, 🇺🇦 guys, just know this think tank is very soft and frames everything from a sensible neurotic “nuclear war is scary” American policy debate overdosed perspective





