• Skiluros@sh.itjust.works
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    9 hours ago

    I believe Brazil basically supports russian occupation of Ukrainian territories (and extermination of Ukrainian citizens, language and culture).

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      6 hours ago

      Not really supporting, but mostly turning a blind eye because Russia is a significant ally and the main source of refined diesel fuel.

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        5 hours ago

        I believe Lula da Silva publicly supported the annexation of currently occupied territories. It was presented in a more diplomatic manner, but I am talking about outcomes.

        Brazil hasn’t legally recognized the occupation like Nicaragua, but from what I’ve read in our local (Ukrainian) media, it’s more like committed support, as opposed to “turning a blind eye”.

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          5 hours ago

          Interesting. I looked around what Lula has said and found that, in 2023, he did suggest Ukraine to “cede Crimea in order to stop the war”

          In 2025, during a press conference where someone asked him about the Russo-Ukrainian war, after making the case for a ceasefire and negotiating peace, he asked back: “Do you think Putin will leave Crimea?” - although he never supported Russia’s claims for other territories, stating “you don’t always get what you want”.

          I can see how that can be taken as support for the aggressor.

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            2 hours ago

            can see how that can be taken as support for the aggressor.

            Lula changed his stance on Ukraine later, but in May 2022, Lula placed blame on Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, saying “This guy is as responsible as Putin for the war”. Lula also repeatedly attacked NATO and the European Union as having caused the war. He accused NATO of “claiming for itself the right to install military bases in the vicinity of another country”

            Also, since the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Brazil has tripled its trade with Russia. Brazil has become one of the largest buyers of Russian diesel and fertilizers. In 2023, Brazil imported Russian fertilizers worth $3.5 billion

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            4 hours ago

            What I read also concerned other regions, not only Crimea.

            I will give Lula the benefit of the doubt (I am assuming he knows nothing about russia or Ukraine), but yes, you can kick the russians out of Crimea (under putin or otherwise). If you want to do it, one easy supportive action would have been to allow high impact strikes deep into russian territory from day one of the full scale invasion.

            Or not reward them with Nord Stream II after they annexed Crimea in 2014 (Merkel).

            Generally speaking, being meek, cowardly and corrupt rarely contributes to any goals (military or otherwise).