Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Philadelphia’s DA have warned troops they’ll face charges that Trump can’t save them from if they violate residents.

As Donald Trump floats expanding his authoritarian military crackdown to liberal-led cities beyond the nation’s capital, troops deployed to carry out his anti-democratic schemes might be at risk of prosecution themselves — and the pardon-happy president may not be able to save them.

Thus far, by my count, two Democrats in states that may find themselves targeted have vowed to spur local or state prosecutions — which couldn’t be overturned with a presidential pardon — for anyone who violate residents’ rights if and when the Trump administration expands its troop deployment.

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    Of course the loser MAGAs would fight back, which would have been great. Shoot as many as possible in their riots, gather up the rest, along with the Jan6ers, execute their leaders, and toss all the rest in prison for decades.

    And when the stolen documents scandal came to light, it would have proven to the world that they were genuine traitors, and it wasn’t just Democrat lies.

    Sure, there would have been a lot of trouble, and a lot of clean-up, but now we’re going to have that anyway, and a lot more, IF we ever emerge from this nightmare. It would have been a lot easier in January 2021 than it’s going to be in January 2029.

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      Look. We are all subject to it and I am not going to pretend I haven’t watched (the Scott and Stonebridge seasons of) Strike back closer to four times than not but… life is not an action movie.

      Those magats who “fight back”? They aren’t going to only shoot at the cops and soldiers coming to arrest them. They are going to shoot at “purple haired trans people” (just with a lot more slurs). They are going to shoot up the schools that are teaching kids to use litter boxes and the libraries and daycares that dare to put fricking Miss Rachel on the TV. They are going to shoot at the people who have those “in this house we don’t discriminate” lawn signs and so forth.

      And ACAB isn’t just a fun dance. We have seen, time and time again, police departments actively refuse to enforce Democratic/left-leaning laws they don’t approve of. The few attempts at gun control are a “great” example of this where cops actively refuse to enforce them and actively call for the removal of government officials (New Mexico had a big one of those two or three years back).

      Life isn’t Call of Duty. Civil war is going to reach the suburbs. And it is going to be really really bad.

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        Life isn’t Call of Duty. Civil war is going to reach the suburbs. And it is going to be really really bad.

        Would be a lot LESS bad if we had a sane administration running the government, though.

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        The scenario you’ve described sounds far superior to the reality we’re living in now due to Trump’s presidency. The things you’re talking about are happening already, but now with the complicity of the state. Trump in power is worse than his most extreme fanatics getting riled up.

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          I do fear we are going to see things go hot to some degree or another before 2028 (maybe even 2027…).

          But it is the difference between guaranteed slaughter and hoping that people choose sanity. And, even more cynically, it is the difference between “expendable” groups (e.g. Trans folk) being slaughtered versus white middle class liberals. Which is obviously a long standing issue with Democrats (and most mainsteram left leaning political parties) but also aligns with the “Just let them start shooting and we’ll fight them back and fix everything” fantasies that are so common in these discussion spaces.

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            “Just let them start shooting and we’ll fight them back and fix everything”

            Is not a fantasy. There is probably a better than 50% chance that that is the future path of this nation. Rather than disparaging it, and those who are warning about it, wake up and start preparing for it. If it doesn’t happen, great, but if it does, you will be happy to have a game plan.

            I know where my personal Red Lines are, which scenarios will make me act, and I am mentally preparing myself to respond to those those situations. I am stockpiling supplies, and discussing plans with family and trusted friends. I’m losing weight, and getting in shape. I’m ready to either run from Nazis, or chase them, whichever is required.

            I have recently made peace with the concept that there is a good chance I won’t live into old age, and my life may have a twist ending I wasn’t expecting. More importantly, I have had the revelation that dying like that would be a waste, if our Nation has become permanently MAGA Nazi.

            If it pops off, and I hope it won’t, but also think it probably will, I’ll be ready. I won’t be an instigator, but I absolutely won’t back down either. If the treasonous psychopaths come after me or mine, they’ll find a true fight on their hands. If any of my Red Lines are crossed, I’m already prepared, mentally and physically, to engage.

            I suggest everyone else do the same. Establish your Red Lines, make plans with family, start stockpiling, and get in shape.

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        Of course they would go after the people, and not the authorities, because ALL MAGAs/Conservatives are cowards at their core, and they will concentrate on the easy, weak targets.

        But that would only last about 48 hours, and then the massive outrage of the rest of the country, and the rest of the world, would come down upon them.

        If they started killing their neighbors, shooting up schools, etc., then every person who has professed their loyalty to MAGA would be declared a violent terrorist, and rounded up - those who haven’t been murdered by their neighbors. If I had a MAGA neighbor who was taking revenge on his neighbors, I’d burn his house down with him inside, and wait for him to run out. MAGAs aren’t the only ones with guns. Even if he survived it, he’ll have to live somewhere else. All the MAGAs with burned down houses can go to jail, or Russia.

        So go ahead, MAGAs, take your revenge. You’ll kill a few out of the gate, but after that, we’ll be all over you, and you will never breathe free air again, if you remain breathing at all. Go ahead, try it.

        No mercy for treasonous pedophiles.