Bro, we haven’t even started the primaries, isn’t this the exact time to ask for better? The anti-trans thing is only part of it. He’s also a capitalist shit heel who rubber stamps PG&E’s agenda with 0 push back. Is extremely anti-homeless. Doesn’t do the bare fucking minimum to push back against police brutality in LA. But yeah I should just forgive that before the primaries even start because his team did something witty on twitter.
It absolutely is. I’m a big proponent of getting in line to oppose Republicans when it’s election time, but the second the election is over until the second the primaries are over is the time to talk shit, find options, get behind folks who align with your beliefs, and make your voice heard. Because right now we’re setting who gets a seat at the table. We’re setting what kind of promises will be made.
Sure, you’re not wrong. I just don’t have faith it’ll stop at this point. I’ve watched it too many times. Progressives, especially in the US just can’t toe the line and pick each other apart. Media doesn’t help.
The problem is neither can liberals. Look at the NY election. The Democratic Party is at least two different parties in a trenchcoat, but one has no billionaire backing, the other one has no popular backing.
I lumped the entire group, I agree neither can come together.
But I feel you go off the rails when you say the other one has no popular banking and entirely pass the blame. At best we’re back to hyperbole, at worst you’ve completely diminished a huge population.
There is a huge group of more conservative Democrats who loved the Clintons and desperately wanted Hilary. Obama was the white savior and Democrats loved him as they ended racism (imma dip into /s here a bit), lots loved Biden right up until the end, and my wife has Kamala mugs. These people and others in the party have done some good. They’ve mostly kept a status quo, and they do a lot of shit nimbyism and worrying about some fake trans girl killing their kids.
They are flawed but generally good people. That’s not entirely driven by the Democratic party, the party mostly follows them. There have clearly been instances where it’s close and their influence has swayed shit, and that’s getting worse and fucking terrible, but the idea that what the Democrats do is a falsehood and not driven somewhat when your locality screams at you for increasing taxes and tossing a rehab center next door and see a chunk of your retirement gone. And what are they supposed to do?
These are real things that happen at the local level and shape the parties and in a fptp system, idk 🤷♂️.
It takes 2% to lose to fascism. I don’t have an answer, I’m just telling you what I’ve seen and your comment is a symptom of the larger problem. Not to say it was way out of line or particularly offensive, it mostly seems like dismissive of people and circumstances.
Bro, we haven’t even started the primaries, isn’t this the exact time to ask for better? The anti-trans thing is only part of it. He’s also a capitalist shit heel who rubber stamps PG&E’s agenda with 0 push back. Is extremely anti-homeless. Doesn’t do the bare fucking minimum to push back against police brutality in LA. But yeah I should just forgive that before the primaries even start because his team did something witty on twitter.
It absolutely is. I’m a big proponent of getting in line to oppose Republicans when it’s election time, but the second the election is over until the second the primaries are over is the time to talk shit, find options, get behind folks who align with your beliefs, and make your voice heard. Because right now we’re setting who gets a seat at the table. We’re setting what kind of promises will be made.
Sure, you’re not wrong. I just don’t have faith it’ll stop at this point. I’ve watched it too many times. Progressives, especially in the US just can’t toe the line and pick each other apart. Media doesn’t help.
The problem is neither can liberals. Look at the NY election. The Democratic Party is at least two different parties in a trenchcoat, but one has no billionaire backing, the other one has no popular backing.
I lumped the entire group, I agree neither can come together.
But I feel you go off the rails when you say the other one has no popular banking and entirely pass the blame. At best we’re back to hyperbole, at worst you’ve completely diminished a huge population.
There is a huge group of more conservative Democrats who loved the Clintons and desperately wanted Hilary. Obama was the white savior and Democrats loved him as they ended racism (imma dip into /s here a bit), lots loved Biden right up until the end, and my wife has Kamala mugs. These people and others in the party have done some good. They’ve mostly kept a status quo, and they do a lot of shit nimbyism and worrying about some fake trans girl killing their kids.
They are flawed but generally good people. That’s not entirely driven by the Democratic party, the party mostly follows them. There have clearly been instances where it’s close and their influence has swayed shit, and that’s getting worse and fucking terrible, but the idea that what the Democrats do is a falsehood and not driven somewhat when your locality screams at you for increasing taxes and tossing a rehab center next door and see a chunk of your retirement gone. And what are they supposed to do?
These are real things that happen at the local level and shape the parties and in a fptp system, idk 🤷♂️.
It takes 2% to lose to fascism. I don’t have an answer, I’m just telling you what I’ve seen and your comment is a symptom of the larger problem. Not to say it was way out of line or particularly offensive, it mostly seems like dismissive of people and circumstances.