Alternative for Germany has joined France’s National Rally and Reform U.K. in becoming the most popular party in its country, according to polls.

A poll Tuesday showed Alternative for Germany — which is under surveillance by the country’s intelligence services over suspected extremism — is now the most favored by voters. The survey by broadcaster RTL put the AfD at 26%, ahead of the ruling Christian Democrats at 24%.

This is a high watermark for the European far right, a once fringe movement whose virulently anti-immigration, anti-Islam and culture-war politics were shunned by the mainstream just a decade ago.

Today, these parties have developed deep ties with President Donald Trump and his Republican allies, who openly cite nationalists such as Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán as inspirations on policy and tactics.

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    Capital controls the media, not the left. The concept that the left controls the media is made up in order to justify pushing the goalpost to the right.

    It is no different than the conservatives’ beef with colleges not giving their ideology safe spaces. This is most pronounced in law schools where conservatives are demanding their “constitutional originalism” reasoning be taught. The problem is, of course, there is no actual legal theory. They just made it up.

    You seem to be upset that the left, which is not represented by any political party or corporation is not in control of the narrative. This is by design.

    Listen, appealing to the dark side of human nature, othering people, blaming government is easy and works great. It is low hanging fruit stuff. It is effective for control and manipulation. It is also the opposite of what people on the left want.

    They are not victims, they just don’t have any real power. The US has always been controlled by the wealthy and they are choosing the easy way out to stay in power. Giving the illusion of democracy takes a lot of work and even some occasional minor concessions. It is and always will be an illusion though in our current system.

    We really need to form a government that is designed by nature to resist corruption instead of embracing it. Until we have something like that nothing meaningfully will change.

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      Eh… the left controls my government. There are plenty of leftist parties in Europe (which is what the thread is about).

      I mean, last I checked France, Germany and the UK were not in the US, but I may have missed something in the news today.

      Otherwise, I can´t stress enough how little I care about what happens to the US. Which is as little as possible but not zero, because I am not allowed to make it zero, which is what I’d really want.

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        Capital controls your country unless your living in some utopian place I have never heard of. The wealthy continue to amass capital at shocking rates in all of Europe. If the left “controlled” your country this would not be happening so I have to call bullshit.

        I can’t stress enough that the same thing is happening and will continue to happen everywhere if we don’t put a stop to the runaway train. You could care less about the US and what is coming for you. I wish I shared your ignorance, life would seem a lot better

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          Hah. And here we go. We’ll move those goalposts as far as we have to in order to pretend there is nothing we can do.

          Man, the US has done some damage, but I am shocked at how pernicious it has been when a handful of them started cosplaying as leftists and pushing their warped view of how all of this works onto the rest of us.

          It’s true that US-controlled social media exported this model for rising fascism. US leftists are absolutely a part of that process.

          I genuinely encourage everybody else in other parts of the world, and particularly in the bits of Europe and America where there is still some leftist organization with some institutional power to cut off as much of US media and social media as possible. Including —especially, even— leftist US media and social media. The worldwide far right is importing the US fascist playbook. We don’t win this by mimicking the losing equivalent of their local opposition. There are better alternatives.

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            The problem is we don’t know what to do. Do you have plans to address wealth inequality in your country? If not, then I would say you are going to face the exact same problem.

            The US has done so much damage it is almost unbelievable. It really is incredible to think. I believe they toppled 75 countries just during the Cold War. US corporations are directly responsible for most of the environmental disasters we are facing.

            I just learned that US companies have 14,000 unplugged oil wells in the Gulf of Mexico and several hundred abandon platforms. The amount of environmental damage is staggering and that is just one spot. Superfund sites are everywhere and companies are not slowing down.

            There are no real US leftist, at least not ones in power. Europe, while slightly better, still has mostly left-light in their politics. There are no radical leftist in power that are changing things for the better. They may exist, but how far are they with replacing capitalism and representative democracy?

            Governments will probably never be the answer either if we can’t reign in the most dominant force in our world known as corporations. Which, at the direction of the wealthy, are destroying our environment and culture at a break neck pace.

            We are all in this together, there is only on Earth. As long as we keep playing the game the wealthy want us to we are sunk.

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              Do we have plans? Yeah, we have plans. What we need is to keep getting the votes. It’s moving in the right direction.

              And no, we aren’t in this together. You can’t expect to be all “America First” as a country, spend a solid century enforcing your take on geopolitics, half of which was ran as the sole dominant superpower and then go “it’s all one Earth” the moment crap goes South.

              Clean up your own house, let’s see if we can keep ours clean, and then the survivors can talk about this “one Earth” thing. But I’m not willing to listen to how you don’t know what to do in the meantime. Even less so when you slide into a conversation about European politics assuming the US is the default.

              It’s politics, not therapy. Go start an indefinite general strike. We’ll be here when you report back.

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                Well it is clear you don’t have any sort of plan. That is okay. I was hoping for some insight. And no, an indefinite strike from me, a person who lives on a little island in the middle of nowhere is not going to make any fucking difference.

                I did not create the Nazi slogan America First nor do I approve of it. Honestly, your acting like a little bitch.

                I think you are mistaken about my approach and saying we all share the same Earth is a wake up call. Do you think we can vote our way out of what is happening? Don’t bother answering that as it is seriously rhetorical.

                What is up with Europeans getting bent about talking with US citizens. The thread I am commenting on specifically brought up the US. I think you are behaving like an asshole honestly.

                Don’t bother reporting back, all you have is shit to sling.

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                  The juxtaposition of “what would little old me striking ever possibly accomplish” to “do you think we can vote ourselves out of this” is fascinating.

                  On that basis at all I’m doubling down on the “cut off any US media, leftist or not out of your political info diet”. Holy crap.

                  For the record, I did not bring up the US in the post you responded to and neither did the post from somebody else I was responding to.