Might help also to describe what you think feminism is, since it’s one of those terms that is overloaded.
I once had a physical therapist tell me she wasn’t a feminist because she thought women couldn’t be as physically capable as men when serving as soldiers, and seemed to believe feminism requires treating women exactly like men.
I told her I was a feminist because I believe in equal rights for men and women, an idea she did not seem so opposed to.
It is. Most people associate feminism with promoting women and not equality. Most people don’t look up the definition in a dictionary
I care a lot less about what word they use than what ideals they espouse. They can call themselves egalitarians or antisexists or whatever label as long as they oppose sexism, misogyny, heteronormativity, and “gender roles”.
Agreed. I think as a whole society has started giving more value to words than actions. It is backwards, especially when social media is prone to creating echo chambers for words, and actions go unnoticed.
“most people” are (1) a much smaller group that you think and (2) wrong.
If your behavior can at all be described as sexist, then you’re not a feminist. That includes both Feminism Appropriating Radical Transphobes like JK Rowling.and outright sex pests like Andrew Cuomo.
Well, I can only comment on my social group and that is the only group i am concerned about in this context. So, it is ‘most people’ for me.
I hate this polar thinking so much. Everything is not all or none, yes or no, black or white. People are unique and everything is a spectrum. Even Hitler had admirable qualities and if this makes you uneasy, you need to open up your mind.
But certainly the most relevant quality he had was his rabid, genocidal antisemitism, right?
You wouldn’t complain about him being labeled as a eugenicist just because he painted a little when he wasn’t slaughtering millions.
I don’t mix things. I admire Hitler for being a vegan and pursuing art. I absolutely hate what he did with concentration camps.
Relavant depends on the thing we talk about. If we are talking about history, he isn’t winning any Peace or Humanitarian awards.
“What he did with concentration camps”
vs
“Vegan”
You’re not beating the allegations here.
What do you mean?
You don’t seem to have a problem with the use of labels when it comes to dietary choices, im not sure why you’d go to such lengths to avoid calling Hitler a eugenicist. You even used passive language by saying ‘what he did with concentration camps’ instead of stating plainly that he ‘exterminated 6 million jews’ in them.
You are just proving my point that people get hostile if you use or don’t use some category specific words.
He killed Jews. It is not a fucking secret.
Well yeah, but I didn’t say there are only 2 possible diets - carnivore or vegan. There is a shit ton of diets in between - vegetarian, omnivore, eggetarian, pescatarian, etc. You have this messed up mindset that anyone who is not xyz has to be abc, never lmn or def.
Not everything is a spectrum. You are either actually pregnant or not-pregnsnt. You’re either free to go when the officet is talking to you or you are being detained. You either had consent for sex or you didn’t.
For example, if the example you provide to bolster your argument is “Hitler had admirable qualities”, then you’ve jumped all the way past Godwin’s law and there’s no use talking to you.
Flaw in your argument is that you are comparing states and one time actions with mindset and sum of many actions.
Yet you did.