• Whostosay@sh.itjust.works
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    Why do they frame it as rights? Let’s start with not fucking killing them, I’m pretty sure that’s a little more fundamental than rights.

    Yes we want them to have rights, but let’s not jump the IDF gun here. They have to be able to live and eat before they can be granted let alone receive rights.

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      Tell that to President Whitmore during his epic speech in Independence Day!

      Perhaps it’s fate that today is the Fourth of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom… Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution… but from annihilation. We are fighting for our right to live. To exist.

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      Everything is about rights the right to live, the right of free mouvements, the right to self defence. Palestinians are stripped from all of them .

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      Why do they frame it as rights? Let’s start with not fucking killing them, I’m pretty sure that’s a little more fundamental than rights.

      Because traditional news have drilled into many people’s head that there are no innocents there, at all.

      Some of them are so delusional that they think phrases like “Stop killing children” is said in support of terrorism. It’s honestly 1984 levels of brainwashing.

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Why do they frame it as rights? Let’s start with not fucking killing them, I’m pretty sure that’s a little more fundamental than rights.

      No no. You see, Israel has the right to defend itself by being proactive in it’s mass murder and cultural removal.

      Palestine has no right to defend itself from any of this, and if anyone does they’ll kill 500 people starting with the family of the person to did something.

      That’s just fair!

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    But the DNC insists it was the tone of his voice, the color of his suit, and his friendly smile. It couldn’t possibly be his policies.

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    Don’t get me wrong: stopping Israel from genociding, colonizing, and otherwise persecuting the Palestinians is an absolute moral imperative. But in terms of being a political imperative, this poll is not saying what Truthout wants to pretend it is.

    Why is Truthout.org trying to downplay/distract from the economic populism?

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      I wouldn’t read it that way.

      Being instrumental doesn’t mean being the only important factor, and Truthout clearly mentions this is the third most popular reason, not the first.