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      Funny how that’s almost always relevant in these messed up situations.

      But this might transcend that a bit. If we shifted to a decent system that put humans first, we would still need agriculture at the same huge scale even if it was managed by communities and co-ops. Many jobs in that sector that are filled by cheap undocumented migrants are already ones that Americans won’t do. I could see there still being an issue getting the work done.

      Of course, if individuals were more involved in the sourcing of their food and even worked outside on some gardening, it would benefit them greatly. We’d want whole education campaigns to help with that.

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        still require agriculture

        Im talking about the ‘must always grow’ shit. Yes we still need food

        immigrants

        Fuck borders. Why? What’s the benefit of them to actual people? They’re just problems. Let people ho where they want.

        people shouldn’t be alienated from their food

        Agree.

        fuck corporate (thing)

        Agree

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        Here’s a wacky idea: if Americans won’t do it, Americans don’t get to eat. Let’s see how long it takes for things to change…

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          So yeah, many people could use that kind of tough love and reconnecting with the basic realities of life. It would legitimately improve the mental and physical health of the population too.

          Unfortunately the conservatives have already claimed the strategy of starving the young and the infirm because their parents or caretakers aren’t good enough worker bees.

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            Or physically can’t.

            This country is also way too big and its climates are way too varied to support its population on small subsistence farms all year long.

            We could do it that way a century and a half ago, but even then we were reliant on industrialized farming and food production.