In June 2025 are you seriously trying to say that Hamas is motivated by end of days hadith? Palestinians are a marginalised ethnic group, to put it mildly. They don’t need religion for motivation.

I was speaking generally. Are you talking specifically about Hamas? I think they’re probably upset about a lot more than end of days hadith. What makes you think they have a specific focus on that? Genuine question.

In my experience, I’ve not seen any of the Abrahamic faiths ever focus on end of days in any material literal sense. I’m not that familiar with the typical US Evangelical or Israeli perspective, which is probably relevant. Evidently, they can sometimes interpret “Promised Land” in the literal sense, rather than a metaphor for a state of enlightenment or inner peace or anything like that. So, you might be right.

When this voluntary migration plan succeeds and the world becomes a beautiful terrorism free utopia, you antizionists are going to look pretty stupid.

Edit: Wait!!! Are you about to downvote me because you’re a zionist, an antizionist who doesn’t understand irony, or something else? I can’t not know!

The hadith is secondary commentary. It is supposed to be considered (in its historic and underlying Quranic context), rather than followed. As a third party, what can we conclude from reading it in isolation without any real world evidence or reference to the actual Muslim people giving it that consideration? Nothing beyond speculation.

I’m currently reading Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Kobes Du Mez. You might find it interesting. I’m not sure how much I buy in, but it’s pretty wild.

Genuine serious question, and I’m certainly not implying that you should but, do you feel humiliated at all?

My point was that it was a “hadith” quote, as opposed to being from the Quran. Muslims frequently ignore hadith or give them such a wide interpretation as to give them negligible relevance. To simply infer the active beliefs of real Muslim people, or any religious group, from literal interpretations of cherry picked passages of secondary religious texts is ignorant nonsense. (Especially in 2025 when can just ask them directly over a round of Fortnite.)

Even when considering the antichrist stories (which appear in the New Testament), core principles in the Quran state that “believing” Jews, Christians and Muslims (and maybe even unlabelled monotheists) will be rewarded by God (2:62), and warns Muslims against trying to judge or assume “belief” in others (49:12, 4:94). This message also appears throughout the teachings of Jesus (e.g. Matthew 7:1-5), who Muslims consider to be a prophet of God.

Even if we carefully and collectively decide to determine a group as “bad”. We can, and arguably should, do that without recourse to religious prophecy. For example, if we collectively decide (e.g. UN, ICJ, ICC) that the group is carrying out an ethnic cleansing or genocide, based on real world evidence, interpreting a hadith prophecy to support that doesn’t add weight in any objective sense.

It’s always some obscure quote from the hadith about some homicidal tree. Most Muslims, like the other Abrahamic faithful, are just trying to stop trans people from having abortions.

It’s also starting to get really obvious isn’t it? I mean, you really have to be provincial. I’m actually thinking of moving to the country and trying bigotry for a bit myself. You know, before we’ve missed it completely. It’s just that there’s a really good shawarma place round the corner from us here.

There’s some weird looking Haredi Jews waving their arms and blabbering something about Materialism in that 18 percent.

If the Germans could determine whether someone was Jewish, I’m sure there must be several perfectly reasonable and objective ways of doing it.

How do they gatekeep who can be Jewish?

Everything is an advertisement now. We even made ourselves into our own advertisements. The number 1 childhood aspiration is to become the most effective advertisement.

Tbf, not everyone needs to get informed or involved with issues like this. Realistically, many people would be better off engaging minimally with social media and focusing on their own health and wellbeing and just generally embracing casual anti-racism, rather than trying to internalise it.

He’s refering to Taiwan obviously.