Yeah it’s fine, there are a ton of pop_os fanboys out there, I’m just stating a fact. System76 complained about the gnome 40 changes over and over and the gnome devs ignored them, their only option was to make their own DE or use something else and they clearly didn’t want to be at the mercy of another group of developers. I’m excited for cosmic as a true original DE in the style of gnome, but at the same time it’s going to be rough around the edges because it’s new.
I’m not sure smart is the right thing to say here, system76 backed themselves into a corner by criticizing gnome. They either had to do their own thing or put up with it, they clearly decided to do their own thing and show gnome how they think a DE should be managed. However there are other ways to handle it and Linux mint has done an amazing job with cinnamon and mate.
LOL you think I’m a PCMR neckbeard? My PC is old, it’s running a Vega56, not even in the last two generations of graphics cards, I’m fine with 30FPS when it makes sense but I’m talking sub-25FPS with shit frame times that make it feel like a damn slideshow. I prefer consoles, FFS I run a steam deck docked to my TV more than I use my gaming PC. Why do you think I use GeForce Now? So I can play games on high settings and not deal with settings that make my games look like they’re running on an N64. You keep calling me a member of PCMR if you want but I’m not ever here riding Bethesda dick for a shitty game.
Starfield plays like shit, looks like shit (by today’s standards) and the quests are shit. Neon is a lazy world that only ends up becoming one giant hallway with a few shops. Everywhere else feels lifeless and boring. Starfield was a flop, and while Elex isn’t the best game out there, the fact that it can in fact in some situations stand toe to toe with Starfield on graphical fidelity is just an absolute disgrace. I was on a desert planet in Starfrield in the main story (can’t remember the name) at night, on a balcony running on GeForce Now with an RTX 2080 and getting less than 24FPS, that’s absolutely pathetic, game is just bad.
That’s great, then I stand corrected. I don’t use pop on a regular basis so please don’t think I’m trying to insult your work, simply stating the perception from the outside. Clearly that’s not the case and I’m in the wrong. I also didn’t know you rebuild the ISOs every week as again, I don’t use pop regularly.
Mint is based on LTS and they release two versions a year and update their package base. I respect what the pop_os guys are doing, which I guess includes you, we need more modern DE’s besides gnome and KDE. I know what LTS is, it’s just odd that you guys haven’t updated pop_os for over a year, and the last time I used an OS that did the same thing, Solus, the whole project went to shit. I’m on endeavourOS now, but I’ve been keeping an eye on the progress of cosmic hoping to see an updated version of pop because I genuinely love the style and look of the OS. If you’re updating packages and keeping up to date on as many packages as possible then I definitely retract my original post.
Fair enough, but why is pop_os almost two full OS releases behind Ubuntu?
They’re spending all of their time and effort on cosmic. This is why I don’t recommend Pop_os to anyone anymore, not until cosmic is complete and released to the public.
Can someone explain the “tankie” baggage? I’ve seen it thrown around quite a bit but no one seems to explain it in detail.
I tried bazzite, unfortunately I had some odd quirks that I can only attribute to an immutable OS. Things like window and UI scaling wasn’t consistent. My mouse cursor would blow up to twice the size when hovering over one window then shrink back down on another. I can only guess this is because the base filesystem is only readable and it can’t write any values for scaling on certain themes/window decorations. While not a huge deal, it comes off as sloppy and inconsistent. It’s not a great user experience and first impressions are everything. It’s easy to make a first impression, it’s damn near impossible to make a second one, and my first impression of an immutable OS has been soured. I installed mint 22 and it’s been a completely different experience, from window decorations, to time shift backups, system updates, Bluetooth, cinnamon theming, it just works out of the box with little to no setup.