I’m curious how long they can sustain this as it’s probably a lot like WWII when the US commandeered a bunch of factories for the wartime effort. This isn’t sustainable long term as those factories need to produce regular goods for the country as well plus I don’t know how well the Russian people support the war so they may not have the same ‘spirit’ to win the war as we did here back in the '40s.

Fair enough my mistake, but it’s still an irrelevant question.

Maybe handing all three branches of a nuclear power to literal fascists?

I did that? The Supreme Court was already under control of the fascists because the DNC rolled over and allowed the Republicans to take the nomination away from Obama a year before the election. They again rolled over and allowed Trump to nominate yet another justice weeks before the election. In my district we voted in a blue congresswoman and had no senators on the ballot. Are these losses around the rest of the country my fault, too, or the fault of the people running those campaigns?

You really don’t grasp what has has transpired here do you? You think that those of us who have been ringing the alarms are just overreacting and it’s going to be business as usual?

How exactly were you ringing the alarm bells? By telling everyone to vote for Biden and then Harris? By telling everyone the obvious about what a piece of shit Trump is? How did that work out for us?

I’ve been ringing the alarm bells about how terrible the Dems have been performing and all the shitty policy they’ve been supporting (genocide, the rich, the right) and got so much pushback. I’ve been called a shill, a republican in disguise, an idiot, and everything else under the sun and look how things turned out for us. You supported a losing strategy from a party full of neoliberals that doesn’t give two shits about you or anyone else and now you want to point fingers. As I said before, how could it not be more clear after losing or nearly losing this many elections in a row that the DNC and their leadership is the problem?

I voted for Harris begrudgingly. Can you please get back on topic now or have you run out of excuses for why she lost and it’s not her or the DNCs fault? As I said, you’ve just created a strawman, and completely derailed the discussion with some “gotcha” that didn’t pan out, not that I really believe you’ll believe me and will likely claim I’m lying so that you can pretend that you were right all along and everyone else is “the problem” and if that’s the case then you can expect the Dems to keep losing elections until you run out of people to blame.

Are you willing to address any of my arguments or are you just going to continue to keep your head buried in the sand?

Who said I didn’t vote against him? You’re just creating a strawman to validate your argument even though you couldn’t be further from the truth. The DNC ran yet another terrible campaign and alienated a bunch of their voters. The people still defending this insanity that has happened almost 3 elections in a row are the people to blame. Are you defending the 2016 and 2024 campaigns? Do you approve of the neck and neck 2020 campaign? How many elections are you willing to lose in a vain attempt at sticking to a losing strategy?

What limits are being imposed on them currently? They’re already flattening Gaza, attacking UN outposts, and invading other countries and this is all with our warplanes, bombs and tax dollars.

Culpability for what? Nothing is forcing Biden and Harris to support such atrocities. Nothing forced them to abandon the left and the working class and cater to the right at every opportunity. If you want to point fingers, why don’t you start with the actual candidate leading the campaign, who consciously made all these decisions, and the party leaders backing her?

Was 2016 not enough of a wakeup call? Was the near loss in 2020 not a wakeup call? Here we are in 2024, repeating the same old song and dance, and people are still digging their heels in thinking that moving further and further right is a winning strategy for the Democrats and it’s everyone else’s fault when it doesn’t work again and again and again.

Maybe the party leadership will finally pull their heads out of their asses after this, but I won’t hold my breath. They’ll probably pick someone like Joe Manchin to run in 2028 and then wonder where it all went wrong once again when he loses to someone like Ted Cruz or Ron DeSantis.

Nah the DNC did this by abandoning their principles and base in a failed attempt to appease conservatives and some foreign government.

Arguing that people should just support, fund, and arm human slaughter, and likening it to something basic like marijuana legalization or taxes, all so you can win a contest is fucking insane coming from the supposed left, but it really just shows how far to the right the party has gone.

You did this.

Bud, they both support it. The difference is that Republicans don’t pretend to care about stuff like this.

Because 9800 is 25.6% larger of a number than 7800.

It seems like you might have a problem with it since you’re insisting that she lost because she’s a woman.

Your graph seems to indicate that education level has more to do with voting preferences than gender.

Edit: and this seems to contradict your theory that this is all about gender biases and not something else like abandoning the party base

There’s almost zero representation for the left in the Democratic party, so it’s not accurate to refer to the party as the left. Both of these parties are catering to the right, but one seems confused about why they keep losing to the party who isn’t afraid to admit that they’re just catering to the right.

Representation is a thing, but they assume far too much about it: “Let’s run a black woman - we’ll get all the black AND woman votes! And she’s Asian, too!” Meanwhile they are doing little for the working class issues that affect these voters most.

Right on the nose. Here’s a perfect example of this, which I find incredibly demeaning toward the supposed demographic they’re trying to court. It just shows how out of touch the party is.

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/13/nx-s1-5151968/harris-weed-crypto

Jesus christ you’re literally quoting “George Soros funding the deep state left” MAGA rhetoric here and wondering why the dems lost the election. Stop trying to out-Republican the Republicans and maybe you’ll stop costing us elections.

If that’s what you believe, why didn’t you demand that a man take her place?

I still somewhat cling to this same belief although I think it’s a futile effort as you’re not just competing against randos online, but networks of bots, disinformation campaigns, state actors, and an army of gullible individuals who parrot their rhetoric. You just can’t compete against that as a single person.

People who vape are using nicotine much, much more often because it’s just so much easier now.

Do you have some proof to support this? And even if it’s true, why is that your concern to the point where you feel justified in jailing individuals for using it?

The whole idea of vape as a means to quit smoking was a myth created by vaping companies.

This is false on multiple levels. First, because people who vape instead of smoke are no longer smoking, and second because countless people have used them to quit using nicotine as you can buy different strengths of juice and taper yourself down to 0mg/ml juice which is something that I’ve personally witnessed numerous people do.

Nicotine is also bad for you, not just the smoke.

The smoke is what gives you cancer. Nicotine does increase your blood pressure and heart rate, but so do cheeseburgers and soda, and I don’t see you or anyone else trying to assign criminal penalties to individuals for using those.

And then there’s the issues of the other compounds inside vaping liquids that should be heading into your lungs.

Like propylene glycol which is used in asthma inhalers? Vegetable glycerine which is used in sports drinks to candy to heart medications? What harmful chemicals are you referring to?

You’re equating the harms from second-hand smoke with vaping here, which don’t exist as they’re caused by the chemical reactions that occur when you burn plant matter.

I’m not arguing that it’s okay for people to vape where they’re not supposed to, but you’re blowing things out of proportion here. The real danger to your lungs while in a gathering is from catching COVID from one of the individuals nearby you.

Supported by the Labour Party’s majority, the legislation seeks to create a “smoke-free U.K.” and combat smoking-related deaths.

vaping was much worse

Why?

because people blatantly use them indoors and wherever else they shouldn’t

I don’t know if that really makes them worse than premature death.