• snipvoid@lemm.ee
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    Let’s break down that January 31, 2023 article once more:

    1: The investments in Moscow listed equities dropped from $2.7 billion to a mere $300 million.

    It would be laughably naive to think this is purely because they’ve been ‘pulling out’ of Russia. By all means, review the article and let me know if it states the exact reason for the decrease in value.

    2: By December 31, 2022, Norway still had shares in 51 Russian companies.

    It’s September 2023. If they were aggressively pulling out, wouldn’t they have zero investments by now?

    Nice try.

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      Timelines for individual retail investors are significantly shorter than timelines for multibillion dollar sovereign wealth funds with fiduciary obligations.

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        And yet all the investments, their value, and what percentage of ownership the Norwegian Sovereign Wealth Fund possess are all publicly available on their website.

        If I filter by ‘Russia’, they still show 51 companies. Today. Let’s look at their top five, which you can also view by accessing their own data.

        Highest Percentage of Ownership:

        1. Lenta International Co PJSC: 2.25%
        2. Rosseti Centre PJSC: 2.69%
        3. Ufaorgsintez OAO: 0.99%
        4. Segezha Group PJSC: 1.16%
        5. Bank St Petersburg PJSC: 1.76%

        Highest Amounts of Investment in NOK:

        1. Gazprom PJSC: 731,368,780
        2. LUKOIL PJSC: 536,571,485
        3. Sberbank of Russia PJSC: 523,299,961
        4. Novatek PJSC: 118,267,597
        5. Surgutneftegas PJSC: 76,130,966

        ^ these alone = ~$185,140,710 USD.

        What fiduciary obligations does a pension fund have that is somehow more complex, important, and forgivable vs obligations belonging to Pepsi Co?

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          What fiduciary obligations does a pension fund have that is somehow more complex, important, and forgivable vs obligations belonging to Pepsi Co?

          I largely agree with what your saying but this part is ridiculous. The Finnish parliament has no obligations to serve/sell Pepsi. It’s not an investment it was literally having the drink available. That’s not at all comparable to the fiduciary duty of a pension fund.

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            Sure, but now tell me how the richest pension fund in the world, currently valued in the trillions, has such fiduciary obligation that it can’t divest ~$300 million of Russian investments.

            Make it make sense.

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                I did not. Happy to help!

                My original comment (to which you responded) regarding the obligations of Pepsi Co were highlighting a critical comparison between a corporate drinks manufacturer and the pension fund. The Finnish Parliament can do what they like. If they’re doing it because Pepsi Co hasn’t fully pulled out of Russia, and thus Pepsi deserves to be shunned, what does Norway deserve?

                If action is mandated for entities that don’t divest from Russia, then it must equally be applicable to all entities where this is true. Otherwise, hypocrisy.