Pros:

  • The clickety clack is creamy as hell
  • The dial/knob is very useful already
  • I really like the LED effects when I’m typing.
  • The packaging was superb and it just generally looks amazing

Cons:

  • Shipping (unrelated to keyboard):
    • it took 3 weeks to get here
  • Keys / Spacebar
    • It’s quite a high profile position and I find myself double-hitting the spacebar often which appears to have a hare-trigger
    • The spacebar is needlessly long, and my thumb can’t quite reach the Alt or Win key without contorting my hand.
    • On my laptop, the spacebar begins at C and ends at M. Here it starts at X and ends at ,
  • Customization
    • Modifying it in Linux is proving to be painful.
      • The qmk cli requires a full reflash, but no easy way to set macros
      • VIA has easy macros, but has no cli just a shitty Electron app that requires you to set your keyboard permissions to World Accessible for chrome to detect it (which is creepy).
  • Gaming
    • I knew that some keyboards are better for typing and others for gaming, but I did not think the difference would be so big.
    • The arrow keys could be a lot more responsive
    • I’ve never noticed this issue with a normal keyboard.

I guess I love the look and feel of it, but it’s incredibly frustrating to modify as a linux user and I’m making tons of mistakes with it whilst typing.

Is this all normal? Do I eventually get used to it? Or should I send it back and just use a normal $20 keyboard that I can just type and forget about.

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    Cons: Shipping (unrelated to keyboard): it took 3 weeks to get here

    Most this stuff is shipping from China, so not only did they just have Lunar New Year where everyone goes on vacation, but they also had a major change in Tariff structure with lots of uncertainty. I have had packages from Keychron DHL’ed from China to rural US in 2-3 days before, and also had stuff take 2+ weeks via other methods.

    Keys / Spacebar - It’s quite a high profile position and I find myself double-hitting the spacebar often which appears to have a hare-trigger The spacebar is needlessly long, and my thumb can’t quite reach the Alt or Win key without contorting my hand. On my laptop, the spacebar begins at C and ends at M. Here it starts at X and ends at ,

    So laptop keyboards are often shortened and profiled to be as small as possible. The space bar on your Q1 is actually a normal size and profile, any other standard Cherry or OEM keyboard will be nearly identical. There are custom keyboards and builds that have shorter or even longer options, as well as convex or flat profiles like LAS or DAS. You are just not used to a real keyboard because you have been living with laptop chicklets which are their own hell.

    Customization Modifying it in Linux is proving to be painful. The qmk cli requires a full reflash, but no easy way to set macros VIA has easy macros, but has no cli just a shitty Electron app that requires you to set your keyboard permissions to World Accessible for chrome to detect it (which is creepy).

    https://config.qmk.fm/#/keychron/q1v2/ansi/LAYOUT_ansi_82 You can create keymaps and macros on the QMK website and then flash to the keyboard via the toolbox.

    https://github.com/the-via/releases/releases You can also download VIA as an application so you dont need to use Chrome.

    Gaming I knew that some keyboards are better for typing and others for gaming, but I did not think the difference would be so big. The arrow keys could be a lot more responsive I’ve never noticed this issue with a normal keyboard.

    What switches do you have installed, switch type can make a HUGE difference in responsiveness and error rate.

    I guess I love the look and feel of it, but it’s incredibly frustrating to modify as a linux user and I’m making tons of mistakes with it whilst typing. Is this all normal? Do I eventually get used to it? Or should I send it back and just use a normal $20 keyboard that I can just type and forget about.

    I daily Linux and got Keycron keybords specifically because they can be configured, have open firmware, can be customised, and are high quality at a reasonable price.

    I will say that if you have previously been a laptop only user or are used to mobile chicklet style keyboards moving to a “normal” keyboard can be hard. I grew up in the PS2 era with an IBM Model M and old Alps Mac keyboards so I struggle more with laptops than I do actual keyboards.

    I actually bought a compact low profile Keychron K17 Pro so I dont have to use my laptop keyboard when I travel for work!

    Almost all your issues are because its new, and unfamiliar to you, and with some setup and maybe some customization your Q1 will be your new home and you will miss it when you dont have it.

    https://imgur.com/a/3mdPcyI

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      Just wanted to comment on the laptop chiclet part: i am a mechanical switch/keyboard enjoyer through and through, but i honestly don’t hate laptop chiclet keyboards (especially in comparison to bog standard dell membranes). And i think i might have peaked in wpm on a laptop keyboard 😂 i always thought this was weird