I would like to see more opinions from the Greenland locals, but I doubt that they want to exchange Denmark with the USA.
I do know that they want to go independent and it seems as if a majority wants to be part of the European Union:
According to a poll (auto-translated):
40 years after Greenland left the EU, the mood is perhaps turning.
In a survey conducted by Nasiffik – the Centre for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy on Ilisimatusarfik – 60 percent of respondents say that they will vote ‘aap’ if a referendum was held on Greenlandic membership of the EU.
It is a surprising result that there is now a relatively large majority in the Greenlandic population who believe that Greenland should join the EU, says Rasmus Leander Nielsen, head of Nasiffik.
So the president of the greenlandic parliament made a focus of his new year’s speech to talk about increased autonomy from historical danish colonialism and continuing the past 8 years of work on a new constitution. These topics are pretty important for his reelection campaign this year. However, apparently AP or Reuters picked up on the story and now there’s 100s of imperialistic articles online talking about “Greenland makes sudden shift towards independence after Trump discussions” and “Nuuk is closer to New York than Copenhagen”.
Now Trump Jr went to Greenland and Trump is threatening to use military force to take Greenland, and all the Greenlandic politicians are freaking out that the Americans are about to take away their sovereignty.
Thanks from a fellow Swede! Basically the only thing I know about Greenland is that it’s a good place if you want to get really really drunk. And then there is the old colonial issue. Never talked to a Greenlander, but the Icelanders I know seem to still be quite hostile towards Denmark, so I just extrapolate from there. Different ethnicity probably don’t make things easier.
Yeah, I’ve never talked to any greenlanders, either, but It was strange when my American friends were talking about “Greenland announcing their independence” when it hadn’t been reported in DN or Omni at all.
All the English articles about the new years’ speech seemed very imperialistic and all of the recent events cited were covered in a very different tone in Swedish and Danish news. Once you read the actual new year’s speech I think you get a much better understanding of the Greenlandic position separate from all the imperialistic ambitions of Trump and whatever pro-Trump AP/Reuters journalist wrote the article.
Greenlanders are saying in the news now that Americans are misunderstanding the new year’s speech but now apparently Trump’s dynasty is calling it fake news and insisting that Greenlanders want to give them their natural resources. https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-jr-leaves-greenland/
Anyways, it would be an interesting place to visit sometime!
The population is so small that the US easily can give each individual a million dollar. And far less will probably be enough. So we can be certain that the locals will say yes if there is a vote.
You skipped a couple of steps between “US easily can give each individual a million dollar.” and “So we can be certain that the locals will say yes if there is a vote.” Like Trump planning to do that and it being implemented.
Also, a million dollars, let alone “far less” than a million dollars, would not be enough for me to be willing to give up socialized medicine for the rest of my life and the life of my kids, grandkids, etc. Not everyone is as motivated by money as you seem to think.
I think a lot of Europeans are concerned that Trump will take a page out of Putin’s book and use coercive tactics to annex Greenland.
The narrative they’re making now is that Greenlanders want to be part of the US and that Denmark is lying about greenland’s wishes. Money for votes is one tactic, and other options are possible too, like influencing the upcoming election, manipulating the news cycles, border skirmishes with DK/EU/NATO, and little green men. All tactics that Putin knows well, and are likely spreading to the US as its domestic oligarchy and ties to Russia grows.
Again, if this becomes a military operation, that’s different. Russia’s attempts at doing it non-violently failed, which is why they turned to military force. They wouldn’t have done it if their attempts hadn’t failed.
Oh I don’t disagree that Trump and Republicans couldn’t give less of a shit about the law. I’m just saying we shouldn’t assume this is going to go their way this early in the game because they also fuck up constantly.
I would like to see more opinions from the Greenland locals, but I doubt that they want to exchange Denmark with the USA.
I do know that they want to go independent and it seems as if a majority wants to be part of the European Union:
According to a poll (auto-translated):
https://knr.gl/da/nyheder/flertal-vil-have-groenland-tilbage-i-eu
So the president of the greenlandic parliament made a focus of his new year’s speech to talk about increased autonomy from historical danish colonialism and continuing the past 8 years of work on a new constitution. These topics are pretty important for his reelection campaign this year. However, apparently AP or Reuters picked up on the story and now there’s 100s of imperialistic articles online talking about “Greenland makes sudden shift towards independence after Trump discussions” and “Nuuk is closer to New York than Copenhagen”.
Now Trump Jr went to Greenland and Trump is threatening to use military force to take Greenland, and all the Greenlandic politicians are freaking out that the Americans are about to take away their sovereignty.
https://naalakkersuisut-gl.translate.goog/Nyheder/2025/01/0201_Nytaarstale-2025?sc_lang=da&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US
https://www.knr.gl/da/nyheder/mute-b-egede-maner-til-ro-groenland-er-groenlaendernes
https://www.knr.gl/da/nyheder/maaske-et-mediestunt-men-alligevel-alvorligt
Source: Me, a swede who can read GL news articles written in Danish
Thanks from a fellow Swede! Basically the only thing I know about Greenland is that it’s a good place if you want to get really really drunk. And then there is the old colonial issue. Never talked to a Greenlander, but the Icelanders I know seem to still be quite hostile towards Denmark, so I just extrapolate from there. Different ethnicity probably don’t make things easier.
Yeah, I’ve never talked to any greenlanders, either, but It was strange when my American friends were talking about “Greenland announcing their independence” when it hadn’t been reported in DN or Omni at all.
All the English articles about the new years’ speech seemed very imperialistic and all of the recent events cited were covered in a very different tone in Swedish and Danish news. Once you read the actual new year’s speech I think you get a much better understanding of the Greenlandic position separate from all the imperialistic ambitions of Trump and whatever pro-Trump AP/Reuters journalist wrote the article.
Greenlanders are saying in the news now that Americans are misunderstanding the new year’s speech but now apparently Trump’s dynasty is calling it fake news and insisting that Greenlanders want to give them their natural resources. https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-jr-leaves-greenland/
Anyways, it would be an interesting place to visit sometime!
Tack!
“Please! Take away our healthcare!”
The population is so small that the US easily can give each individual a million dollar. And far less will probably be enough. So we can be certain that the locals will say yes if there is a vote.
You skipped a couple of steps between “US easily can give each individual a million dollar.” and “So we can be certain that the locals will say yes if there is a vote.” Like Trump planning to do that and it being implemented.
Also, a million dollars, let alone “far less” than a million dollars, would not be enough for me to be willing to give up socialized medicine for the rest of my life and the life of my kids, grandkids, etc. Not everyone is as motivated by money as you seem to think.
I think a lot of Europeans are concerned that Trump will take a page out of Putin’s book and use coercive tactics to annex Greenland.
The narrative they’re making now is that Greenlanders want to be part of the US and that Denmark is lying about greenland’s wishes. Money for votes is one tactic, and other options are possible too, like influencing the upcoming election, manipulating the news cycles, border skirmishes with DK/EU/NATO, and little green men. All tactics that Putin knows well, and are likely spreading to the US as its domestic oligarchy and ties to Russia grows.
I still think all you would have to do is tell Greenlanders to say goodbye to their healthcare and enough would change their minds.
I don’t think it’s as simple as the sentiment of the general population.
Most Donbass residents didn’t want to be part of Russia, and now those who resisted are lying in mass graves.
Well sure, if the U.S. decides to invade, it’s another matter. But we’ve been talking about peaceful means so far.
Russia kept Ukraine out of the EU without any soldiers, and civilians were being murdered in the Donbass in 2014 without any formal invasion.
The history of Russia’s attempts to influence and annex Ukraine started decades before the current invasion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exJ024Zdzdk
Again, if this becomes a military operation, that’s different. Russia’s attempts at doing it non-violently failed, which is why they turned to military force. They wouldn’t have done it if their attempts hadn’t failed.
Let’s hope you’re right. My point was basically that the US has many tools at their disposal. Especially when rules of yesterday don’t apply.
Oh I don’t disagree that Trump and Republicans couldn’t give less of a shit about the law. I’m just saying we shouldn’t assume this is going to go their way this early in the game because they also fuck up constantly.
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