Zuckerberg said senior Biden administration officials “repeatedly pressured” Meta, the parent company of Facebook and Instagram, to “censor” content in 2021. “I believe the government pressure was wrong, and I regret that we were not more outspoken,” he wrote to House Judiciary Chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio). “Like I said to our teams at the time, I feel strongly that we should not compromise our content standards due to pressure from any Administration in either direction – and we’re ready to push back if something like this happens again,” Zuckerberg added.

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      From your link:

      He said the FBI did not warn Facebook about the Biden story in particular - only that Facebook thought it “fit that pattern”.

      Directly contradicting your point. Yet you used it as evidence of your point. Can you answer me why one would cite a article that contradicts their point by cherry picking part of it that doesn’t contradict their point?

      Although, let’s also laugh at the absurdity of claiming that because Zuckerberg said it on the joe Rogan show…well, that means it’s absolutely true. Lol

      But to answer your question, most people when they whine about people “lying” about the laptop being Russian propaganda are referring to the warning letter by ex spies:

      https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000

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        Directly contradicting your point.

        Directly supporting. Look at the timeline

        • Laptop repair owner asks FBI why they haven’t done anything.

        • Says if FBI isn’t doing anything he will shortly release the copy he has.

        • FBI warn everyone that “Russian Propaganda” is about to be released.

        • Hunter Laptop story drops.

        • Everyone assumes this is the “Russian Propaganda” so all news and discussion is censored

        • FBI does not reveal that there is no “Russian Propaganda” related to that story.

        • FBI does not reveal laptop is genuine

        • FBI does not admit they’ve sat on evidence for 9 months and done nothing.

        most people when they whine about people “lying” about the laptop being Russian propaganda are referring to the warning letter by ex spies:

        No. I’m accusing the FBI of media manipulation and misinformation.

        But it is hilarious that you are trying to invent evidence using what professional misinformation creators didn’t say in a published letter which, we now know, was complete misinformation.

        The main problem with misinformation is who gets to decide what is fact and what is fiction.

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          FBI does not reveal that there is no “Russian Propaganda” related to that story.

          You still havent proven this. Did you read the letter i posted? This is where the whole “Russian disinformation” public perception comes from, not from some questionable timeline where the FBI plants some vague seeds and the public is smart enough to make the connection.

          And this is the point. They warned Facebook about the disinformation, and Facebook saw that the laptop fit the pattern. Maybe this is because it was Russian disinformation, which is why the FBI never corrected it. Although, there are more reasons why the FBI wouldn’t hop in, such as it’s not their job to correct public opinion.

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            Did you read the letter i posted? This is where the whole “Russian disinformation” public perception comes from,

            Your letter is not relevant. We are discussing why Facebook immediately started censoring the Hunter Biden laptop story published on the 14th October 2020. This has absolutely nothing to do with a disinformation letter released 5 days later on the 19th.

            questionable timeline

            What are you questioning?

            where the FBI plants some vague seeds

            Referenced directly by Zuckerberg as the specific reason for censorship.

            and the public is smart enough to make the connection.

            No, the Facebook content team were duped into connecting the laptop story to Russian propaganda.

            Maybe this is because it was Russian disinformation, which is why the FBI never corrected it.

            OK. I’d love to hear you arguing this. At what point were the Russians involved in repairing Hunter Biden’s laptop?

            it’s not their job to correct public opinion.

            It’s not the FBI’s job to run PR interference for a politician’s son, but that’s exactly what they did. Court documents prove they had foreknowledge and proof that Hunter’s laptop was genuine.

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              Your letter is not relevant.

              Absolutely relevant because it explains how the laptop could be real and that it is still part of a Russian disinformation campaign. Of course the public can only respond to a story after it has been released.

              No, the Facebook content team were duped into connecting the laptop story to Russian propaganda

              Again, at no point have you established as a fact that it was not Russian propaganda. But that sentence was meant to be taken as a whole, contradicting your claim that the public misconception about it was due to FBI planting the seeds.

              OK. I’d love to hear you arguing this.

              Lol I gave you a letter of a bunch of intelligence officially pointing out how it has the earmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign. I don’t I know what the truth is, you’re the one maintaining you know for sure it is not, without providing any evidence other than “the laptop is his” which we agree is not in dispute, but leaves a ton of other questions opened.

              Again, read the fucking letter.

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                Of course the public can only respond to a story after it has been released.

                We are discussing Facebook censoring (incorrectly identified) misinformation.

                The response letter of ex spies had nothing do to with Facebook’s actions, which were actually based on misleading FBI warnings.

                Again, at no point have you established as a fact that it was not Russian propaganda.

                You want me to prove a negative? Ok. No russians were involved in fixing Hunter’s laptop.

                contradicting your claim that the public misconception about it was due to FBI planting the seeds.

                I made no such claim. In fact the opposite is true. The lack of public communication by the FBI about the origins of the laptop story is what is damaging.

                I gave you a letter of a bunch of intelligence officially pointing out how it has the earmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign.

                None of which were true, because it has been proven in court via serial numbers that the laptop is genuine. Claims of Russian propaganda are pure misinformation.

                “the laptop is his” which we agree is not in dispute,

                We agree this is true, so how then do the Russians fit into your conspiracy theory?

                Again, read the fucking letter.

                Again, the letter was sent 5 days after censorship began. It is not relevant.

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                  We are discussing Facebook censoring (incorrectly identified) misinformation.

                  Again, you’ve yet to actually establish that this is the case.

                  The response letter of ex spies had nothing do to with Facebook’s actions, which were actually based on misleading FBI warnings.

                  Again, it explains how even if the laptop is real, that it could still be part of a Russian disinformation campaign. Sticking your fingers in your ears doesn’t make this go away.

                  You want me to prove a negative?

                  No, you’ve repeatedly claimed we know it’s not Russia disinformation, which is a positive assertion.

                  I made no such claim.

                  It’s right in your timeline.

                  None of which were true, because it has been proven in court via serial numbers that the laptop is genuine.

                  Holy shit I can’t believe you still haven’t read the letter. Amazing.

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                    Again, you’ve yet to actually establish that [Facebook censoring (incorrectly identified) misinformation] is the case.

                    See Zuckerberg’s statement

                    it could still be part of a Russian disinformation campaign

                    Nothing raised in that letter is relevant. There was no hacking. E-mails have been independently verified. The story is independent of Giuliani.

                    There is absolutely no evidence of Russian involvement between the point that the laptop was submitted for repair in April 2019 and the FBI subpoenaing the laptop in December 2019.

                    The FBI suggesting to facebook and twitter that the laptop was Russian Propaganda is pure misinformation.