The Islamic Center Hamburg (IZH) was under investigation for several months over its alleged support for Lebanon’s Hezbollah group which is backed by Iran. Hezbollah is classified as a terrorist group by Germany.

German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser said on Wednesday that the Islamic Center Hamburg (IZH) would be banned for propagating extremism and that its famous “Blue Mosque” was being searched by police.

“It is very important to me to make a clear distinction here: we are not acting against a religion,” Faeser said, but just against a group accused of undermining the German state as well as women’s rights.

The Imam Ali Mosque, known locally as the Blue Mosque, is one of Germany’s oldest mosques and is operated by the IZH.

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    This is about whether the Houthis are a good group or not.

    So you are arguing that a group that commits war crimes is good as long as they are fighting Israel and Saudi Arabia. Correct?

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      You understand that Israel and Saudi Arabia are committing far, far worse war crime here?

      Resisting annihilation is good. I’m making no statements on whether the group would be good in a vacuum because that’s not useful for anything except justifying even greater war crimes.

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        They are not committing war crimes in a vacuum. They are committing war crimes right now. Those war crimes involve killing thousands of children.

        I will give you one more chance, as a moderator, to clarify your position. Not with whatabouts, not with whether or not some of what they are doing is good.

        Are they good? Yes or no.

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          Are they good? Yes or no.

          Such a simple evaluation misses context and nuance.

          But no, they’re not good, but they’re infinitely better than the guys dropping bombs my country supplies on their schools.

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            Thank you, then we are in agreement. But I don’t think whatabouts are necessary. Two bad groups can fight each other and the outcome can be a good thing regardless.

            Consider: Stalin fought Hitler and Hitler would not have been defeated without him. That doesn’t make Stalin a good guy. He was also a mass-murderer. It meant he was necessary to defeat another bad guy.

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              Weird how you point at Stalin’s poor handling of a wide-spread drought, instead of Churchill deliberately engineering a famine in Bengal.

              Like if you want an unambiguously evil man who happened to do a good thing, Churchill is right there, same time period and numbers, and doesn’t even have the excuse of crop failures and social unrest.

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                  The western bias; you don’t demand random people say Churchill was bad, you don’t demand random people say Israel is bad, only enemies of the west.

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                    Dude, I had to pick a mass murderer that fought another mass murderer and I picked one. I’m sorry I didn’t pick the specific mass murderer who fought another mass murderer you wanted me to pick out of the ones I could have picked.

                    It doesn’t change the fact that using child soldiers does not make you the good guys. Quite the opposite.