• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    4 months ago

    I don’t want Israel and Hezbollah to go to war, but what will ‘talking about the religious fanatics’ achieve?

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      4 months ago

      Nothing except for deflection of blame for the many war crimes of the fascist apartheid regime of Netanyahu, Ben-Gvir and Smotrich.

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        4 months ago

        I agree that’s where the blame lies, but even if they were right and the problem was religious fanaticism, talking about it achieves nothing.

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          4 months ago

          It does for the genocide denying Zionists whose ONLY goal is to convince people that the actions of the Israeli government are justified. I suspect that the one you originally addressed was one of them, if not just a thoroughly gaslighted useful idiot 🤷

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            4 months ago

            Again, I agree with you. But OP made the implication that if we just talked this out, then there would be no war there and I wanted to nip that in the bud from the source before we even got into whether or not the OP was being disingenuous.

            I feel like the best way to attack such things is by talking about how they are illogical or irrational arguments irrespective of the intentions of the person making them.

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      4 months ago

      Just because Hezbollah are not atheists does not make them religious fanatics. Sure, they talk about God every sentence but that’s just traits from being Muslims. There are Muslims who pray for safety before going into a bathroom. Muslims generally call on God for everything; even where it wouldn’t make sense to a Jew, Christian, atheist, etc.

      If they were less religious, would you be OK for them defending their land more? You are failing into a trap that the Muslims defending themselves are doing it through religious fanaticism. You are falling into pro-Zionism propaganda. They just happen to be Muslims who are defending themselves while trying to process their actions internally in a way that fits their identity. It’s not a religious war; it’s Levantine people vs non-Levantine people.

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        4 months ago

        I wasn’t the one talking about religious fanatics, I was criticizing the person talking about them. Maybe you should reply to the person I replied to rather than berate me for what I didn’t say and they did.

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          4 months ago

          Looks like you’re right. Taking another look at your conversation, it seems you were arguing with a Hasbera (is that how its spelled).