edit: this is now closed future comments won’t be counted

I keep seeing this instance is overrun with tankies so hey, lets do an informal survey like I’ve seen on hexbear

respond with YES or NO in the first line of your comment and i’ll tally everything in a couple of days, lets say I’ll try and collect everything on the sunday the 9th (10+gmt sorry)

not sure thisll work, be nice, have fun

  • ☭ Parabola ☭ @lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    YES

    If wanting to receive basic human rights (food, housing, etc.), attend education without being discriminated against for my income and mental condition, control my workplace, earn the full value of my wages, have a government actually controlled by the people, all while being politically educated in past socialist movements and their theory to achieve all these things, then I’m sure as hell am a tankie, and I don’t care what online liberals say.

    Stalin rules, by the way. ✊

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      5 months ago

      Why does Stalin “rule”? This is a question from a fellow “leftist.”

      Either ignorant, or you’re just a really bad person. Just such a stupid fucking thing to say. Take a step back from the Internet and read a book. Saying “Stalin rules ✊” doesn’t make you cool, it just makes you look like an idiot.

      Stalin was a paranoid, murderous dictator responsible for the unnecessary deaths of countless millions of people. Or does it not count because he didn’t murder them himself?

      Can’t wait to hear about how the holomodor wasn’t his fault…

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      You say you support authoritarianism, and then you say “have a government that is actually controlled by the people”. Are you stupid?

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          If we ignored everything they said before because they did supposition, they literally said “Stalin rules”. What part of that doesn’t scream authoritarianism?

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            5 months ago

            Seems more intentionally inflamatory than anything else, considering they literally told you what they wanted before that line.

            What do you believe Tankies actually desire?

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              5 months ago

              Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes or their allies. – Wikipedia
              I use the label “tankie” on people who support dictators like Stalin and Xi Jinping and actively push for an authoritarian state. Not sure if them putting “Stalin rules, by the way. ✊” was not serious and/or intentionally inflamatory.

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                5 months ago

                They don’t count as a tankie then, they quite plainly told you they wanted a democratically controlled state. Or is democracy authoritarian, in your view?

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                  Nope. As I said, not sure if them putting “Stalin rules, by the way. ✊” was not serious and/or intentionally inflammatory.
                  If they used it seriously, as in supporting Stalin and his acts, don’t they still count as a tankie?

                  • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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                    They never said they supported authoritarianism, they claim to support democracy.

                    As for Stalin support, I believe it’s being intentionally inflamatory and framed against support for a democratic state precisely to challenge the reader’s assumptions about how the USSR actually functioned. I don’t take it as saying “yes, Stalin absolutely should have recriminalized homosexuality” or anything, but we can’t know beyond what they have stated.