• Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    This is such a toxic, dehumanizing concept… To say citizens who live in countries with corrupt governments are complicit in the actions of the very government that oppresses them is straight up evil.

    Like, dude, we can’t even fucking get sick over here without risking financial ruin. And you want to say we ALL are responsible for the actions of our government - even while many of us actively protest those same actions?

    Get the fuck out of here with this nonsense. You are stripping away the humanity and agency of everyone in an entire country when you assert such things. This is simply evil - it’s something that, ironically, corrupt governments love to do.

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      6 months ago

      Like, dude, we can’t even fucking get sick over here without risking financial ruin. And you want to say we ALL are responsible for the actions of our government - even while many of us actively protest those same actions?

      Yes, that does not mean I place the primary blame on citizens nor does it mean I don’t appreciate the power of protest (hopefully it will be enough to force Biden to change course, for the US’s sake and for Palestinians). Still, it is the US government using US citizen’s tax dollars to facilitate this genocide. That makes all US citizens complicit.

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        6 months ago

        it is the US government using US citizen’s tax dollars to facilitate this genocide. That makes all US citizens complicit.

        The hell it does. I don’t get a say in where my tax dollars I’m legally required to pay go. If someone steals your money, uses it to buy a gun, and murders someone with it, are you complicit?

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          6 months ago

          The hell it does. I don’t get a say in where my tax dollars I’m legally required to pay go. If someone steals your money, uses it to buy a gun, and murders someone with it, are you complicit?

          Obviously directly shooting someone is the most complicit someone can be, but plenty of people leave firearms out in plain view with compatible ammo also in plain view nearby. If you leave your firearm out in plain view next to ammunition where a child could easily find it yes if someone steals that gun or picks it up and fiddles with it and ends up shooting someone, you are complicit to a significant degree for posessing such a dangerous tool and not properly safeguarding it.

          The same thing goes with the U.S. military industrial complex.

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              6 months ago

              I guess that is really the heart of where our disagreement lies, I consider our massively over funded military industrial complex to be far closer to a gun than innocent-but-simply-unguarded cash in this metaphor.

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                6 months ago

                The question is whether or not a person is complicit in murder/genocide when it’s committed with funds involuntarily extracted from said person.