A human rights monitor documented the sniping of at least 13 children in and around Shifa Hospital, all between the ages of 4 and 16.

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      Sorry, I wasn’t trying to imply you believe that, but you said it sounded like Israel had good reason to prop them up, and you didn’t deny that Israeli policies allowed Hamas to take power in Gaza.

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      I’m sorry I called you heartless also, this is obviously a heated topic so I might take it a bit seriously, I don’t know you though so I apologize, I don’t assume anyone is heartless and it’s a rude thing to say.

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        This guy has been spouting genocide justification in other threads as well, they’re a lost cause. They’ve written essays about how all Palestinians are Hamas and should all be wiped out, denying that starvation is even happening, etc. Good luck trying to save this one!

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          That makes sense, I doubt I’ll convince many people I argue with directly about anything, but I feel compelled to respond to Israeli apologia mostly for lurkers that might doubt the heinousness of the IDF, and to let anyone else know it won’t go unchallenged, it’s the very least I can do to defend the honor of the people being massacred. Obviously there is much more needed to be done.

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            I respect the effort. I feel like these conversations are many drops but are creating a collective tidal wave, I just find the concept of defending mass murder over learning something new is such an alien concept to me like I can’t have conversations with people who are so bad faith, like, to a point where its homicidal. It’s scary.

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              Someone said a revolution is a series of sparks that create a fire, I feel hopeful that even small things like helping someone see the truth of a situation can help. But yeah it can be baffling the perspectives people have, it’s hard to believe they aren’t a paid shill or something sometimes. Also In a way I see arguing with views so opposed to mine as a way to ensure my own beliefs are solidly supported.

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        Don’t apologize to @[email protected]. He is a genocide denier who is oksy with dehumanizing Palestinians and denied any Israeli atrocities by calling them “just reports”. If you prove him wrong, he will say that you “got tricked”.

        In my eyes he is just a racist.

        Reporting some of his nonsense works but he only gets temp bans and then jumps right back into the quagmire of his own words.

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          True I shouldn’t have apologized ha, I felt like I was being a bit harsh and don’t like to make assumptions, but I hadn’t looked through their posts or argued with them too much. I should know better. If anyone is doubting what’s happening now it’s not worth trying to argue.

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            Yep… that person told me they know more about apartheid than south africa… this is what we are dealing with.

            https://lemmy.world/comment/7866311

            I find it so pathetic… he thinks he is the one who is “awakened” and we are all jusy blind. I’m sure it brings him some kind of satisfaction thinking he is smarter than everyone else while cheering for the literal mass killing of school children and and piles of innocent adults now rendered to dead decaying bodies.