• CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    So you still think the death are “413,000 Russian troops lost so far to Ukraine’s 31,000”?

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      8 months ago

      Since the conflict is ongoing and we don’t have undisputed fact, I can’t tell you the definitive answer you want.

      All we can reliably go on are the agreed upon estimates, which at the moment indicate over 300k Russian casualties and over 30k Ukrainian casualties.

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          8 months ago

          I’m not using the Ukrainian numbers and I haven’t made that claim.

          You getting turned around again?

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            8 months ago

            The 30k is the ukraine number, they are the originator of it. Anyone else that is using it gets it from Ukraine.

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              8 months ago

              Got any evidence for that? I understand the number is based on the names of fallen soldiers confirmed to identities.

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                8 months ago

                I understand the number is based on the names of fallen soldiers confirmed to identities.

                And who comfirms that for them? Ukraine does. I feel like you dont understand that both sides do propaganda, which is the reason you believe Ukraine is going to win when they are obviously not.

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                  8 months ago

                  You have a great many confused feelings.

                  Ukraine has won the initial conflict Russia set out for, almost exactly two years ago.

                  They are still winning the extended conflict Russia is perpetuating.

                  It depends on how you understand winning. I define it in this instance by every indication of the strength and prosperity of a military and its country and the effects of the conflict on that military and country.

                  In the scenario, Ukraine comes out vastly ahead in every significant metric.

                  Russia is ruined for decades in most significant metrics and hasv already been definitively proven to be a lesser power.

                  You judge winning according to…believies?