• CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    You keep claiming russia is saying what it isnt saying, and you are just accepting what Ukraine is saying as the truth. If you actually want to know what everyone says about causalities, I think wiki has probably gotten pretty close to what everyone is claiming.

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      8 months ago

      Tell me which things I’m specifically saying that you think are wrong.

      Show me which the sources you believe are correct.

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        8 months ago

        “You keep claiming russia is saying what it isnt saying, and you are just accepting what Ukraine is saying as the truth.”

        Please see wiki numbers and I am guessing they have what you want.

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          8 months ago

          Are you specifically referring to mainstream Wikipedia?

          Because they corroborate my numbers as of 2024.

          Most estimates are at 30000 plus casualties for Ukrainian forces and 300,000 to 400,000 plus casualties for Russian forces.

          10 to 13 Russian soldiers dead or wounded for every Ukrainian.

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              8 months ago

              Okay, well that is your source.

              So if you want different numbers then the numbers everybody else agrees on, you’re going to have to provide a different source.

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                8 months ago

                They dont agree on those number… Literally if you looked at the wiki you would see that those are not the numbers the US government even uses.

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                  8 months ago

                  So we’ll ignore all the other sources, any other websites, and all of the other countries, and just look at the US estimated deaths on a Wikipedia page you are not providing but are vaguely referencing:

                  NA

                  That site doesn’t have that information yet. Stunning statistics, thanks for wasting that time.

                  Here’s the proof of that website not having the Russian death count you are referring to:

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                    8 months ago

                    Yeah and as you can see all the numbers are less except Ukraine government. Why do you think people agree with the 400k number or the 30 k number?