• Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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      All that ghost housing the population have sunk their savings into is appreciating nicely, yes?

      Funny how everyone complains about US investors sitting on property makes housing unaffordable and also complains that surplus housing in China makes housing a bad investment.

      Everyone hates everything.

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          The point is that China is not some perfect übermensch,

          I didn’t claim they were.

          Whatever the cause, the surplus of housing in China can’t be seen as a negative for the same reason a lack of housing is a negative in the US.

          You can’t have it both ways.

          The trains ran on time under Mussolini. Just because a dictatorship does bad things doesn’t mean absolutely everything must be bad. Just because a democracy does good things doesn’t mean everything is perfect.

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              you replied to me defending their point

              No I didn’t. I specifically ended with, “Everyone hates everything.”

              Too much of anything is bad, just like too little is bad.

              Just like too little of anything is also bad.

              If the value tanks, homes are affordable.

              You can’t have it both ways.

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                  So when I said “just like too little is bad”

                  I was highlighting that you see the problem without acknowledging the hypocrisy.

                  They. Are. Different. Problems

                  One is oversupply causing lower prices. This helps new families at the expense of investors. The other is under supply. This hurts new families and helps investors. When housing crashed in 2008, new home buyers were happy while the media lamented the home owner investors who lost value. You can’t have lower prices without oversupply.

                  It doesn’t matter if we don’t like China’s government. The math of supply and demand is the same.

                  If this was 1935, you’d be posting that trains on time in Italy is bad but late trains in the US is different because “reasons”.

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      Last I heard, Evergrade’s chairman was selling their luxury property to pay for the debt. And you guys are still calling planned cities ‘ghost housing’? Lmao. Cool name though. I’d say the US could learn from it, but they’re unlikely to do something that’s not profitable.

      You do realize you can google things yourself, right? China’s demographics are similar to the US, though, afaik.

      the Uighurs are going to be glad the CCP aren’t into genocide.

      Like I said in another comment, even the US State department says there are no mass killings in Xinjiang, and those guys would love to report otherwise. It’s probably not good there, though. Bad Empanada looked into it, and there seems to be cultural repression going on. He has sources in the video’s description.