Sure, the very first iPhone released today, but does anyone remember the first Android smartphone?

In October of 1998 HTC’s T-Mobile G1, or HTC Dream as it’s known outside the U.S would launch being the first phone with the Android OS. The G1 was priced at $179 — which was pretty affordable even in those days — and featured top-of-the-line specs including a Qualcomm MSM7201A processor, 192MB of RAM, and 256MB of internal storage (expandable up to 16GB). It also stocked a 3.15MP rear camera, and a 1,150mAh battery.

  • heartlessevil@lemmy.one
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    I don’t think 1998 is correct, this was my first Android phone and I used it in 2008 (a decade later than OP) which is what the wiki also says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Dream#History

    First released in September 2008, the Dream was the first commercially released device to use the Linux-based Android operating system

    Android itself didn’t start development until 5 years later than OP:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)#History

    Android Inc. was founded in Palo Alto, California, in October 2003 by Andy Rubin, Rich Miner, Nick Sears, and Chris White.

    I also found this cool category for phones that came out in 1998. They’re all Nokias. This was even a year before BlackBerry.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mobile_phones_introduced_in_1998

    • drcouzelis@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      YES. I turned off all auto-correct and spellcheck and whatever on my Nokia N900, I didn’t need it, I just TYPED. It was so easy!

      And it had Shift, Ctrl, and arrow keys… I miss it so much.

    • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      Same. I’ll never stop blaming Steve Jobs’ hate of physical keys and practicality in favor of looks. Fuck him, but above all, fuck all the competitors that jumped on the “EVERYTHING ON THE SCREEN” bandwagon.

      • The Cuuuuube@beehaw.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        And that’s fine. I just miss there being choices. I get that the hinges increased costs, but dammit, why can’t we just have some expensive phones with hinges and let people choose?

      • snowbell@beehaw.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I recall seeing physical keyboards on at least one phone that still let you swipe text.

    • Erk@cdda.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      What surprises me is that no one has made a phone case that integrates a flip or slide keyboard. It would be an easy way to add an aftermarket physical board to a phone, and from these threads it’s clear there’s at least some demand. I understand it’s probably not enough demand for a whole phone line, but surely something like that would be possible.

      When I lived in Japan I had a lovely flip phone with a nice big screen (for the time), no thicker than my cased pixel phone now when closed. The only clamshells that are left have comically tiny screens and are thicker than a fully loaded wallet. They’re substantially less functional than what I used in 2007. It’s bizarre.

      • lackthought@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        years ago they used to have phone cases with a bluetooth keyboard so you could slide it open and it would be pretty similar to having a keyboard integrated right in the phone

        must not have been popular cause I don’t really see them anymore

    • donio@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      We had actual form-factor innovation back then, for a while phone designs still dared to try something besides the slab. Some real work went into that G1 slider mechanism.

      • The Cuuuuube@beehaw.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 year ago

        I think about that! Our mobile technologies have been becoming less and less accessible as they’ve all settled into the same form factor of big screens with few to no buttons

          • The Cuuuuube@beehaw.org
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            User studies with people not familiar with existing computer metaphors are always so interesting. It always leads to novel computing experiences completely divergent from the classical desktop metaphor. In many ways, we’ve outgrown the desktop metaphor and could start coming up with better and more captivating machine interactions if we just divorced ourselves from the concept. I don’t really have any good suggestions for what to do about it, but I often think about the hamburger menu icon. That shit doesn’t make sense. You see it everywhere because everyone’s settled on it, but if you were told “make a website that people who aren’t familiar with websites can use and enjoy” you would never use that stupid icon

  • Hazelnoot [she/her]@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    1 year ago

    I feel like this design would work pretty well even for a modern phone. Just flatten the bottom-right menu section and extend the screen over it, and you’d get a regular full-size smartphone with a slide-out keyboard and some handy physical buttons!

  • jay@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    It was very satisfying flipping and sliding phones like this. I wonder how it would be to transfer back to a tactile physical keyboard after all this time. I’m not sure if it’s just nostalgia but I almost feel like it would be better

    • Altomes@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      I used the fxtec for a bit just for the keyboard, it truly feels better however the rest of the aspects of the phone were a bit rough

    • Square Singer@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      I built a keyboard attachment for my phone (https://github.com/Dakkaron/Fairberry) because I missed having a keyboard so much. Since it’s easy to detach, I can quickly switch between physical and software keyboard.

      For example, if I want to type really quietly, I switch to the software keyboard. But I really hate it. The physical keyboard is SO much better.

      • donio@beehaw.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        That looks neat! Remind me of the Keyboard Covers Samsung had for the S7 and S8. Those worked by covering up part of the screen and the physical keys were triggering the touchscreen and a special touchscreen keyboard driver. Worker pretty well and it was nice to have the flexibility to have the cover on or off. It could be stowed on the back of the phone when not in use.

  • hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    Had one for less than a day. I was the designated driver, stopped to get gas after dropping everyone off. Put the phone on the car. Drove home… bye bye G1 😭

    • donio@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      You can still get them if you care enough, some of us still use them. There have always been at least a couple reasonably modern physical-keyboard Android phones available, there are a few choices today too. I never had to resort to a non-PKB phone since the G1.

  • TheGiantKorean@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    My first Android phone was my Motorola Cliq, which I got after my Blakcberry Pearl died. Good times with those phones.

    • reric88🧩@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      My first was an HTC Merge in 2011. Looked very similar to OP’s phone, but had dedicated capacitive buttons on front for home, back and recents.

      I loved having a keyboard. Still have the phone here somewhere, power it up for a nostalgia trip sometimes

  • chris. (@nihilx7E3)@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    i was in the root/rom community for a decade & anytime i see anything about classic android i get nostalgic af. while i was a bit too late to own an htc dream, i still boot up my lg optimus v running android 2.2 (well, it was on a 4.4 rom at one point but i flashed it back to stock) every few years. while i don’t miss the horrible ui, bugginess, slowness & clunkiness of android before 4.x, at the same time… i also kinda do for whatever reason lol. not enough to actually go back to it, but still. something about that white status bar, square icons & the overall mismashed together ui made of gray headerbars on top of white & black feels pleasant in a way i can’t explain.

    • donio@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      That keyboard was excellent and the slider mechanism was solid too! A lot of the later pkb phones don’t have a dedicated number row. And I really miss the physical Home and Back buttons, even pkb keyboard don’t have those these days. My only complaint is about the trackball. It was ok for some things but not accurate enough and got flakier with use.

      I also loved early-Android UI. The modern stuff might be smooth but ergonomically it’s crap. For me the G1 represents a golden age, I am sad that I gave it away.

  • hallettj@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    I waited in line for one of these when they came out. It wasn’t a super long line, but I wasn’t the only one. I ended up showing a store employee how to access the SIM slot because I had done enough research to know every detail. I also brought mini donuts for the employees which they seemed to like.

  • pbjamm@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    I still have my G1 and my G2! The G2 was one of my favorite phones of all time and, sadly, the last I ever owned with a physical keyboard.

  • MrTomLegit@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    I did not have that phone, but my first Android phone was the HTC One V. A nifty little budget device that had some nice metal construction for the price I paid. The chin it had was a bit odd though.