• Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
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    Recently proposed data centers that faced pushback were canceled or suspended at more than five times the rate of data centers that didn’t (28.2% vs. 5.2%).

    i.e. the data already takes into account that those data centres are more likely to be built in poorer neighbourhoods.


    My hypotheses:

    1. The rich tolerate data centres more because they get more value out of them.
    2. “AGI soon!” misinformation hits both sides different ways: for one it means “we’re making you richer”, for another it’s “we’re making you obsolete filth”.

    No idea if either/both/none is true.

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      It might also be the kind of data center that is being built. Cheaper data centers are noisier, inefficient with water, etc

      Working class areas may already be distrustful towards large companies coming along and using up all of the local resources

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      The rich are also more educated. Lemmy hates AI, but other upper-middle-class types might just see a datacenter as a big box full of cool technology.

      To plumbers and cashiers, it’s more of a new-fangled abomination we don’t need.

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          Yeah, past experiences with a wonderproject that actually turns out to be meh may very well be part of it. Especially if it’s an older person.

          Speaking of pollution, the whole “wifi/5G causes cancer” thing is still out there too, and might be conflated with a datacenter.

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        Being more educated doesn’t make llms more useful. Being less educated doesn’t make them less fun.

        Problem with them is the magnitude of the push vs their usefulness. There was no need for that massive of scaling. It’s all “we must get all the investor money before we have to raise prices to become profitable”.

        If there was any education behind making those slopcenters, they wouldn’t make them gas powered in a desert.

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          No, but appreciating what a big generic building does could require education.

          If there was any education behind making those slopcenters, they wouldn’t make them gas powered in a desert.

          Yes, they’re designed and built by illiterate cavemen. /s

          Like, obviously you know engineers do that, and are educated and well compensated. It seems like you’ve drifted off to a different argument here.