Yes yes billionaire and all that, I mean going beyond his company and personal ethics. People talk about how he looks and acts in the moment as creepy or unsettling, feelings which other tech bros don’t seem to evoke. Why is that?

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    As someone who’s also neuro-diverse, we’re all a little off-putting. We know we look/sound a bit off and it’s a bit uncanny for some people. People will attach all kinds of meaning to anything they can visibly identify as different. As a mildly autistic ginger atheist I feel like “Soulless” gets thrown around way too freely, but I feel it’s important to keep in mind there are much worse flavours of bigotry out there. Still it’s important to point out that just because Zuck is awful doesn’t mean it’s ok to hate robot-people.

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      Eh there’s autism uncanny valley and then there’s the uncanny valley of this waxy skinned freak.

      That isn’t a normal skin texture, and I’ve never seen an image of him not looking waxy.

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        We could say that it’s not that he’s on the spectrum. It’s that he is while also being evil, so it’s mixed with something else that’s anti social and unfortunate. I don’t know how much of it is by choice. He was a bad person even before becoming ultra rich. Insert “dumb fucks” quote here.

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        Me neither, in fact, I actually prefer them over neurotypicals, but I can definitely see how the general population might not agree.

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        No, I know what he means. There’s a certain too-much-ness, a weird stiffness around me and other neurodiverse - you wouldn’t notice it on a good day but it’s certainly annoying for others. I’m not really capable of normal social interaction in groups at all (groups = more than 1 people present), and I might fake it for a while but it becomes clear after a few interactions.

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        I mean it’s a spectrum of course, as all these things are. No two neurodiverse people are neurodiverse in exactly the same way, we fit broad tendencies. But in most cases people can tell, especially if they understand the broad gist of the various spectra. Most of us wear behavioral masks to get through the day but they’re rarely perfect. Sometimes those of us on a spectrum are better at spotting it in each other than typicals, because we’re working overtime to try to notice and process subtle signals but it’s always there to varying degrees. When our masks slip, people tend to look at us like we grew a second head or something equally bizarre. Some people describe it as feeling alien, or fey-touched, or any one of a billion euphemisms and analogies across time and place.

        It is what it is, same as it’s always been.

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      I feel like people give a little more grace to the uncanny if they are at least perceived as benevolent.

      Mr. Zuckerberg doesn’t get this benefit.