Mercedes-Benz's largest individual shareholder is BAIC, a Chinese state-owned automaker. Sources told CNBC that exemptions in the legislation would not apply.
Bozzella wrote China’s strategy to “dominate global automotive manufacturing” poses “a clear and present danger to American economic and national security.”
It threatens the hegemony of the fossil fuel car industry. If America would allow chinese cars, no one in their right mind, would buy an American gas gusler.
Another area where the US is left behind compared to the rest of the world. The speed run towards the bottom is endless.
BTW the CEO of Ford is driving a Xiaomi SU7 that he refuses to give as it’s the best car he’s ever driven.
Ugh every single time someone posts one of these articles, people in the comments act like American auto manufacturers are some monolithic entity when in reality there are only 3 American companies remaining (GM, Ford, and Tesla) and they don’t even make a majority of the cars sold on the road here and one sells nothing but EVs.
The automotive market here is mostly comprised of foreign auto makers and none of them can compete with the shady economics of Chinese EVs just like their American counterparts. What you’re arguing for here is for the Walmart or Amazon of car manufacturing to take over and create a monopoly. Once they create that monopoly, they will 100% leverage it to their advantage and raise prices sky high. Then you’ll be complaining about all the people out of work and sky high prices on cars and demand that something be done about it. How about using a little bit of knowledge and foresight to stop it before it even starts.
He drove the SU7 for half a year to understand what was being done elsewhere.
He chose it over Tesla because he acknowledged they were innovating.
I think you’re over analyzing what is otherwise clever marketing from the head of an automaker signaling they intend to innovate in new ways, praising your “competition” is a sound strategy.
Anyways, competition is good, china catching up is a good thing.
Catching up? Their cars are straight up better, everyone is buying BYD cars everywhere they’re sold because they’re actually excellent vehicles. Hell, brazilians, who are known for not having any sort of money whatsoever, are saving up or financing them cause the amount of money saved on gas pays for the extra price of the car within like an year.
The fact of the matter is that the US market is shutting out competition because they know they would be completely fucked if they allowed BYD/Geely there. They’re gonna turn themselves into Cuba with old cars that can’t be repaired.
Are you familiar with Chinese restrictions on their domestic market? Why do they think they deserve unrestricted access to the US and other markets when they do not extend that same privilege to their own market?
Ford sells globally though, even if BYD is legislated out of the US market, they still need to compete everywhere else - to the point where they teamed up with VW to sell a sedan in EU that they don’t offer in NA.
Or as much of the rest of the world views the Chinese international model: flooding the market with “impossibly” cheap products, being a loss leader everywhere to kill the competition.
What the USA is doing is equally anti-competitive.
So now that the two leading narratives around the Chinese automotive market have been laid out here I still have no interest in shaking dicks about which is right/better.
More competition is good, China catching up ( or even being light years ahead as apologists proclaim ) is a good thing.
In 2023 the top selling car in Europe was American.
In 2024 that car is still the 4th best selling. With Dacia, Renault and VW being in 1 2 3 respectively.
The American market isn’t being shut out, they still have a stranglehold on the continent and their subsidiaries sell quite well in Europe.
I’m not a China apologist, they’re literally more capitalist than the US because of that Deng cunt. And yes, I know that is their idea, Uber and Doordash did the same thing, but at this point American car companies deserve to go out of business.
No, it’s because they are stagnant, complacent, refuse to sell anything people actually want and instead railroads people into buying 100k dollar trucks they don’t need that do nothing but cause trouble, take space, and kill pedestrians, constantly bribe officials to get competitors neutered or banned, and overall treat their customers like actual dogshit. And I think this goes for any car company that sells in the US, they all know American customers don’t fucking care about being treated like shit so they do the same thing. Brazilian car companies did the same exact thing, and BYD and Geely essentially spooked them into lower prices and trying to be more customer friendly.
Catching up? China is miles ahead in regards to EV’s and innovation. And not just in that area. Luckily the western mind is still set in the China copies , China bad, China shit quality mindset, except the people who have visited China and see advancement across the board.
Yes. Palantir, meta, Google, Amazon, openAI are leading US examples of valuing users privacy.
Plus that spyware myth is propaganda to convince the ignorant citizens to avoid anything Chinese but put your faith in American spyware solutions. Think about the F16 fighters and their kill switch.
Bozzella wrote China’s strategy to “dominate global automotive manufacturing” poses “a clear and present danger to American economic and national security.”
It threatens the hegemony of the fossil fuel car industry. If America would allow chinese cars, no one in their right mind, would buy an American gas gusler.
Another area where the US is left behind compared to the rest of the world. The speed run towards the bottom is endless.
BTW the CEO of Ford is driving a Xiaomi SU7 that he refuses to give as it’s the best car he’s ever driven.
Equality is only for the rich, bitches.
Ugh every single time someone posts one of these articles, people in the comments act like American auto manufacturers are some monolithic entity when in reality there are only 3 American companies remaining (GM, Ford, and Tesla) and they don’t even make a majority of the cars sold on the road here and one sells nothing but EVs.
The automotive market here is mostly comprised of foreign auto makers and none of them can compete with the shady economics of Chinese EVs just like their American counterparts. What you’re arguing for here is for the Walmart or Amazon of car manufacturing to take over and create a monopoly. Once they create that monopoly, they will 100% leverage it to their advantage and raise prices sky high. Then you’ll be complaining about all the people out of work and sky high prices on cars and demand that something be done about it. How about using a little bit of knowledge and foresight to stop it before it even starts.
He drove the SU7 for half a year to understand what was being done elsewhere.
He chose it over Tesla because he acknowledged they were innovating.
I think you’re over analyzing what is otherwise clever marketing from the head of an automaker signaling they intend to innovate in new ways, praising your “competition” is a sound strategy.
Anyways, competition is good, china catching up is a good thing.
Catching up? The US auto industry is a dinosaur.
Catching up? Their cars are straight up better, everyone is buying BYD cars everywhere they’re sold because they’re actually excellent vehicles. Hell, brazilians, who are known for not having any sort of money whatsoever, are saving up or financing them cause the amount of money saved on gas pays for the extra price of the car within like an year.
neat, I’m not interested in shaking dicks about who has the better team.
The fact of the matter is that the US market is shutting out competition because they know they would be completely fucked if they allowed BYD/Geely there. They’re gonna turn themselves into Cuba with old cars that can’t be repaired.
Are you familiar with Chinese restrictions on their domestic market? Why do they think they deserve unrestricted access to the US and other markets when they do not extend that same privilege to their own market?
Ford sells globally though, even if BYD is legislated out of the US market, they still need to compete everywhere else - to the point where they teamed up with VW to sell a sedan in EU that they don’t offer in NA.
Or as much of the rest of the world views the Chinese international model: flooding the market with “impossibly” cheap products, being a loss leader everywhere to kill the competition.
What the USA is doing is equally anti-competitive.
So now that the two leading narratives around the Chinese automotive market have been laid out here I still have no interest in shaking dicks about which is right/better.
More competition is good, China catching up ( or even being light years ahead as apologists proclaim ) is a good thing.
In 2023 the top selling car in Europe was American. In 2024 that car is still the 4th best selling. With Dacia, Renault and VW being in 1 2 3 respectively.
The American market isn’t being shut out, they still have a stranglehold on the continent and their subsidiaries sell quite well in Europe.
It’s good that China is catching up.
I’m not a China apologist, they’re literally more capitalist than the US because of that Deng cunt. And yes, I know that is their idea, Uber and Doordash did the same thing, but at this point American car companies deserve to go out of business.
I’ll take the bait, go on. Do tell. Why do they deserve to go out of business specifically? Just a “we hate America” position or ???
No, it’s because they are stagnant, complacent, refuse to sell anything people actually want and instead railroads people into buying 100k dollar trucks they don’t need that do nothing but cause trouble, take space, and kill pedestrians, constantly bribe officials to get competitors neutered or banned, and overall treat their customers like actual dogshit. And I think this goes for any car company that sells in the US, they all know American customers don’t fucking care about being treated like shit so they do the same thing. Brazilian car companies did the same exact thing, and BYD and Geely essentially spooked them into lower prices and trying to be more customer friendly.
Catching up? China is miles ahead in regards to EV’s and innovation. And not just in that area. Luckily the western mind is still set in the China copies , China bad, China shit quality mindset, except the people who have visited China and see advancement across the board.
chinese spyware integrated into todays smart vehicles doesnt sound like something anyone wants
American spyware created by the CIA: “Aww, you’re sweet”
Chinese spyware: “HELLO, HUMAN RESOURCES???”
(both are bad. but pretending one is worse than the other is stupid)
Yes. Palantir, meta, Google, Amazon, openAI are leading US examples of valuing users privacy.
Plus that spyware myth is propaganda to convince the ignorant citizens to avoid anything Chinese but put your faith in American
spywaresolutions. Think about the F16 fighters and their kill switch.