“No one is looking at us or the extent of this disaster or the crimes that we are experiencing in Gaza,” he said. Still holding his microphone, he slid off his flak jacket marked with the word PRESS and unstrapped his helmet.

“These protection jackets and helmets don’t protect us,” he said, flinging the equipment to the ground. “Nothing protects journalists. … We lose our lives for no reason.”

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    I wanna preface this with “Israel is clearly in the wrong for these attacks and civilians casualties are not an acceptable consequence of this conflict” but as others have already mentions: Israel not taking in Palestinians is very clearly because you can’t reliably filter out hamas from Palestinian civilians. That doesn’t make what their doing OK, it’s just the very obvious reason for them not doing what you’re suggesting. It doesn’t help that these continues attacks probably makes the civilians population more likely to want to retaliate against the government. “You make the monsters you want to fight” and a that.

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      The denial of basic necessities for human survival and the driving of civilians southward is a coordinated push to expel the populous from the Gaza Strip. They’ve attempted back channel deals to scrub Egypt’s debt for them to take in the civilians. Their “plan” to ship the expelled around the world has been leaked. People understand this, and thus, the only logical solution is for Israel to take care of these people whose lives they are shattering. They can’t leave their land or Israeli land or they won’t get it back. Whether it’s worth dying over is largely out of the Palestinians in Gaza hands for the moment.

      This can’t be made someone else’s problem, because that’s exactly what Israel wants and that should make their motivations very clear.

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        Are you actually suggesting Israel take over Palestine and absorb the civilians populations. That’s insane. Theirs decades of hate and anguish here, Israel would need to keep the Palestinians isolated from the Israeli population for fear of retaliation and the Palestinians would live under constant observation for fear of retaliating. Israel can’t deradicalise Palestine when their a good chunk of the reason Palestinians are radicalised into hamas. The only sensible solution is egypt taking over the region and promising diplomatic responses to Israel instead of continued conflict but they don’t for the same reason: because they don’t want the radical element of hamas under their governance. In the end the only end I see is Palestinians expelling hamas or Israel wiping them out because the alternative is continued conflict forever (which i suppose is also possible, it’s been that way for years after all).

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          It’s not my suggestion, it very much appears to be what they are doing in Gaza. Removing their right to self determination is also not a solution. The UN is a much better force to act as interim peacekeepers. I don’t think either of us are probably going to be the ones to crack the peace nut. All that I am saying is that secondary evidence and leaks point to a future where the people of Gaza have been removed and I very much believe Israels intent is to never let them back in.

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            Their not taking over so much as pushing out. Taking over would be more like sending ground forces to find and eradicate all known hamas agents and then establishing an interim Israeli government in the region. The end goal here is very clearly not to take in the Palestinians as new citizens to israels government, its to damage as much of hamas as they can and put a large buffer zone between themselves to minimise the likelihood of retaliation. It’s not a takeover when you appear more than willing to wipe out whoevers already their. And I don’t see any situation where if Israel does take over they actually let Palestinians continue living there.

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      Palestinians is very clearly because you can’t reliably filter out hamas from Palestinian civilians.

      This is also a fucking BS, sure you disapprove but you can’t even put that on the table. Right now, Israel is fabricating more than ever the so called “terrorists”, that’s why they conflate the term with resistance fighter. Don’t you fucking think it is a traumatic situation?! Bombing, displacing, cut water/electricity/food …

      At the very very least, it should have been a terrestrial attack, but they are so coward and reluctant to anything not jewish (last bit is in their book), that they go freestyle and free of consequence.

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        I mean you can’t filter out anyone whose been radicalised from those just wanting an out. And the possible risk from mistaking it is extremely high.

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          Holy molly I feel dirty, suddenly. , I misread your comment, my bad. The BS argument is about “radicalization” , of course. People seeing their relatives, friends and weak (children) getting killed is just fuel for outrage and punishment…