• TaTTe@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Thanks for the additional explanations, I’m not from the US so I’m not too familiar with how voting works there.

    I’m still not sure I understand what “straight Democratic tickets” mean. Is it people who only voted Democratic before and this was their first time voting Republican?

    If that’s the case, I’d be interested to read more about this if there are some sources you know of. It sounds like pretty solid evidence for election rigging.

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      8 hours ago

      I’m still not sure I understand what “straight Democratic tickets” mean. Is it people who only voted Democratic before and this was their first time voting Republican?

      No, it means they only vote for the candidates from their party.

      Generally American voters are either Republican or Democrat (or Independent, like me), and they generally vote for all the candidates from their party. Not always, sometimes there’s a candidate from you party that you particularly hate for some reason, or a candidate from the other party that you like, but generally people vote for their own party. That’s a “straight party ticket.”

      The ballot always includes much more than just the presidential race. Every two years, every member of the House of Representatives runs for reelection. Every six years, Senators run. Governors are running, along with a lot of other state seats like state legislatures. Then there are municipal races for your county and city - mayors, councilmen, school board, tax collector, clerk of courts, judges, dog catcher, etc.

      So if someone is a strong party voter, they’ll just vote a “Straight Ticket,” with every vote for their own party. In the old days, with the old voting machines, there was even a switch you could flip as soon as you started, that would automatically cast your party vote for every race, so you didn’t have to flip 20 switches.

      So it would be really weird for someone to be such a strong Democratic voter that they check off every Democratic box, and then cast their presidential vote for Trump. I could see them voting for their Republican neighbor for dog catcher, because he’s kind to animals, but generally, the higher the election goes, the more likely you are to vote for YOUR party.

      The idea that someone would vote a straight Democratic ticket, then vote for Trump as president, makes no plausible sense at all. Worse, literally nobody from either party has questioned it at all.

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        2 hours ago

        Re: straight democrat tickets with trump for president. Do you have a source on this? I’d like to read more about it.

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          1 hour ago

          Like I said, NOBODY is investigating it, so there is very little except lots of things from lots of sources.

          Here’s something that points to what I’m talking about:

          in the seven swing states – Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin – there was an inverse trend: the Democratic vote dropped very slightly but held up quite well compared to 2020, but Trump made enough gains to give him the White House. A large part of Democratic campaign spending was focused on the swing states, suggesting that this helped buoy up Democratic support – but not enough to overcome a wave of additional Trump voters.

          In the swing states – Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia and North Carolina – the story was one of increasing Republican votes. About 303 counties had seen larger increases in the Trump vote than any major change in the numbers voting Democrat. Meanwhile, 66 counties saw outsized shrinkage of Democratic votes.

          Swing states: how Democratic vote stayed flat while Republican gains won it for Trump

          So the story in the Swing States was that the Democratic vote stayed strong, while the Trump vote increased…why? What was the reason for the sudden rise in Trump voters in those states? Why weren’t they there in 2016, or 2020? After not voting for him twice, they saw him throw an Insurrection and steal hundreds of documents as thought they’d vote for him for president, even though they were going to continue to vote Democrat for everyone else?

          Florida, which was an evenly split state for decades, is no longer considered a swing state because so many MAGAs moved there, that they now have a 600K lead. But that doesn’t seem to be the case with these states. Their Democratic voter base stayed relatively consistent, but suddenly there were a lot of Trump voters.

          All they had to do was flip less than 1% of the vote, and both Musk and Putin openly contributed their experienced professional hacking teams. Lean on the the Doge Douchebags, and they’ll spew the whole sordid scheme.