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    2 hours ago

    Our goal should be to get the US out of war.

    The current war of aggression against Iran, sure. But not avoiding war unconditionally, no. The US could, for example, stay out of war by selling out Ukraine and rewarding Russian imperialism. But that would mean creating a precedent that the US capitulates and sells out its allies anytime someone else rattles their sabre. That’s a path that doesn’t lead to peace. It leads to servitude, and to rewarding whoever’s the most flagrant warmonger.

    But Zelenski doesn’t care. He’ll fan whatever flames if it help him with his conflict.

    The desired end state of that conflict, for Ukraine, is Russians out of Ukraine and no more attacks against civilians and civilian infrastructure. At that point, no more conflict. But ending it now on unfacorable terms for Ukraine means we’ll get a refugee crisis, the systematic destruction of Ukrainian national identity, massacres, and further Russian aggression as Putin turns his attention to the Baltics or Poland. Neither is a good choice. But one is far less bad than the other.