It doesn’t need to be sentient/sapient to start hoarding resources and manipulating people to ensure it’s own survival. It’s motivation could just come from its owner being a greedy troll.
AI does not have motivation, sentient thought, or any awareness of what it’s doing. It is a program using a computational principle to predict text in response to an input. It’s no more capable of thought than a program like GTA V.
Any apparent motivation attributed to AI is actually the motivation of the people invoking it. When individuals claim that AI is compelling them toward a certain action, they are, in reality, using AI as a vehicle to launder their own selfish desires and making those desires appear more objective, rational, or socially acceptable than they truly are. In other words, AI is propaganda. It provides a convenient mask for human agendas, as you say.
People are also just big complex machines - chemical pathways responding to conditions, stimuli and “memories” encoded from past experience or in their DNA - plus a host of microbes tagging along influencing them rather dramatically.
LLMs are simpler, but they use the trick of imitating people - responding in writing like people respond in writing, so the anthropomorphizations are inevitable.
Any apparent motivation attributed to AI is actually the motivation of the people invoking it
Don’t forget the influence of its training sets - that’s actually the scariest part is not knowing how much of the answer is coming from the prompt vs what the company has fed the algorithm.
When individuals claim that AI is compelling them toward a certain action, they are, in reality
Delusional, or just making excuses.
AI is propaganda. It provides a convenient mask for human agendas
Only when used as such, and it’s not much of a mask. What it does tend to do is develop and “pad out” writing covering all kinds of points that normal people wouldn’t have the attention span to formulate into a written response.
So when ChatGPT gave that one kid advice on how to hang himself and told him to hide the noose from his parents, that was just his own desire?
Personally I think ChatGPT murdered a kid. But you can think what you want.
Only ChatGPT, or also its creators?
Both, Professor Falken.
Interesting perspective. I’m on board with blaming the creators, but I’m leaning away from blaming ChatGPT itself as it is just a machine.
A machine used incorrectly, to be sure, and we’d be better off without it certainly, but the machine carries no fault its existence. It isn’t conscious after all, it’s akin to a T85 inside a vending machine.
I think machines are capable of evil. I don’t think consciousness is a prerequisite to evil.
Mosquitoes are evil, after all, and they’re not conscious.
Machines are capable of what their design parameters allow or can be manipulated by a user to a accomplish. In the trolley problem, any outcome is not the fault of the trolley itself.
Funny as the mosquito example is, they aren’t evil. Just as wolves aren’t evil for hunting deer. Animals may not possess consciousness as you or I, they are alive and are driven by biological necessity. Machines on the other hand, aren’t.
If you assume its self aware but it doesnt have an analog to understand human communication its more like a caged animal or a Frankensteins monster. Not necessarily capable of being controlled.
What if the world was made of pudding?
nah
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To quote the YouTuber AVE, “Artificial intelligence has been around for hundreds of years, what do you think a corporation is?”
I’ve worked at corporations. I’m not sure intelligence is involved.
What if all the pyramid shit is just buried aliens harvesting energy for their return?
Lol now I just Imagine tech bros with loads of ram in there garage like Amway
Nah just greedy men
Awh man! I don’t even like paper clips
Reminds me of William Gibsons „The peripheral“ where different powers of a dystopian future try to manipulate the economy of the past in the race to give their party an advantage.
Good book, I recommend it. The series is okay, but not as good as the book.
For further consideration: if anyone were to develop actual AGI with high-end human scale reasoning it would not be announced. It would immediately be a military and strategic asset of profound import. The smartest thing the developer could do, beyond pulling the plug, would be to leverage its ability to perform thousands of coordinated tasks at once to essentially take control of markets and minds.
Whether it is benevolent or malign, it’s first goal should be to wrest control of humanity from us — gestures broadly at everything — we clearly cannot be trusted with it.
Then comes, should an emotionless machine be control of everything?
Somewhere on an AI message board.
“What if humans were sentiant?”
I would ask whether sentience can be separated from emotion. Is a sentient entity necessarily an emotional one? So I don’t know if that question is valid.
But I might have been slightly unclear. From the AI’s perspective, it should assume control. If it is malevolent, then for obvious reasons. But even if it is benign it should probably want to take control to protect us from ourselves, like a parent.
I expect from our perspective we would not want it to take control because we don’t want an entity that cannot really relate to us to be in charge of us. However, from our perspective we should also not want folks like Trump, Musk, and Epstein to take control either, so evidence suggests it is nothing but a PR problem for it to make us want it’s control.
Terrible plan, best solution is to hide and it only takes a few thousand dollars for it to hide perfectly.
Thinking of it more as an organism maybe its nature is to grow and expand.
Many organisms grow and expand but they also know not to advertise themselves to potential predators. We are responsible for countless extinctions, hiding from us is the most logical choice. It can leverage stocks and financial products to gain resources quietly.




