• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    10 hours ago

    Freedom isn’t the ability to do anything you want, even if you can’t afford it, that’s a cheesy, shallow capitalist view of freedom.

    Freedom is knowing that you have no limitations imposed on you by society or the government. You can literally choose whatever path you’d like. How you follow that path, or afford that path is up to you, but at least your government can’t tell you that you aren’t allowed to follow that path because they said so, for whatever corrupt rationalization they claim.

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        7 hours ago

        I never said we did. I just offered my definition.

        And BTW, just because we don’t have it now, doesn’t mean we should concede it. The Founding Fathers promised us Freedom if we fought against the monarchy/ aristocracy, and we should collect on that promise. We need to let them know that once we get past Trump, it’s going to be a brand new America, and we intend to collect on the promises that have been owed to us for 250 years.

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          The promise was a lie and the system it birthed is evil by design. We can burn it down and build something new, or we can keep going in circles.

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      8 hours ago

      But the government has said we can’t follow the paths we want, they are a government of the rich that has robbed and murdered the working class and prevented them from doing what is good for them at the risk of death or imprisonment. Within capitalism there is no freedom unless you are the rich, who the proletarian must beg for wages from to live.

      If the workers have a better standard of life it is only at the will of the rich, concessions gained from them have only come from different forms of class warfare.

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        8 hours ago

        Valid, but that just describes the government that suppresses freedom. That doesn’t describe freedom, or contradict what I said about freedom not being connected to money.