• its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works
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    24 hours ago

    I agree in theory, but often the desire to end one’s life is often symptom of a treatable disease, or short term situation. Less than 10 percent of people who survive a suicide attempt, latter try again and succeed. There would need to be a lot of safety net in place, just like there is for the terminal.

    Honestly I think it could save people. Knowing there is a way out, so to speak, could prevent people from attempts on their own. Not to mention it would prevent traumatizing whoever finds a successful suicide. Needing proof that other treatments are inactive would get even more the help they need.

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      21 hours ago

      I can see where you’re potentially coming from.

      But I don’t think you comprehend how violent an act of suicide is in almost all cases.

      It takes an insane level of commitment to go through with that the first time, more so for the subsequent attempts.

      Also of the people who really aim to end it, succeed on the first try.

      I don’t know about you, but if given the choice, I probably wouldn’t be here. There’s nothing particularly wrong with me physically, I just don’t want to be here.

      Been the case over a decade ago. Pretty much back as long as I can remember. Still the case today.

      I do agree with the point that a humane way out will probably have a net positive impact in almost all cases. Especially if it comes with “here’s a list of things you should consider doing to lessen the impact on your family and significant other” or something of the sort. Needless to say, but should be entirely optional.

      I don’t think I agree with the “other treatments” mentality though. That just sounds like what the Americans are doing with their abortion clinics trying to emotionally blackmail people into not aborting their child by forcing you to listen to heartbeats and look at ultrasounds.

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        6 hours ago

        The interesting thing about suicide is that it can be “contagious”. Also being under the influence increases the risk of it, not to mention access to a gun. This is some of the evidence that points to most suicides being an impulsive act. Having a plan already in place to go to the “euthanasia clinic” could curb some of the impulsive suicides. Completely understand the comparison to the stupid abortion clinic ridiculousness. It just seems like there needs to be a way to ensure the people using it are in the statistical group of multiple suicide attempts that end in success.

        I’m sorry you feel like you don’t want to be here. I absolutely understand that, there have been many times in my life when I felt the same. I don’t know the right way to say this, but have you tried therapy or medication? Both have helped me at various points in my life, and it is a relief not to feel that way. I say this because it isn’t too late for you. By the time I was truly feeling excited by living, I was diagnosed with a brain tumor. I hope you can find a path to looking forward to being here in the world most of the time.

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          2 hours ago

          Appreciate the kind words. I have had various approaches to try and “treat” this over the course of the last 15+ years, including the ones you named, like I mentioned, not exactly a new phenomena on my end.

          If there was a suicide booth or a euthanasia clinic for people who just want to peace out, I’d have visited it 15+ years ago or any day since then, including today.

          Also while I understand the notion that access to substances and firearms and whatnot might increase the risks of impulsive momentary courage (or stupidity), an average home and convenience store offer many items which can effectively facilitate the deed, don’t need to be super elaborate with hugging a grenade or slobbering on the barrel of a shotgun for an effective method… granted if the plan is to go out with a bang, who am I to stop it.

          Sucks about the tumor though. May you easily outlive the expectations if you so desire