They do this shit at least 3 times a week here in south Mississippi, and its a fucking freight train with over a hundred train cars usually.
They do this shit at least 3 times a week here in south Mississippi, and its a fucking freight train with over a hundred train cars usually.
And blocking our fire trucks for over half an hour, ain’t that cute?
Usually we got a detour we can use, but the train chucklefucks blocked both major intersections at once today, blocking not only civilians but also emergency services.
That’s a separate issue. You asked a question, and an answer was given.
I bet that your city is used to having trains, seeing as they’re pretty major infrastructure, and had the good sense to have multiple police and fire stations on each side, thus not negatively impacting their response times.
Have you called the station managers or whatever to file an official complaint? If not, you’re wasting your time complaining here.
Oh, you must have misinterpreted my question. You (and apparently others) must have thought I was asking about the train fuel exclusively. I was most decidedly not.
I was asking about the multitude of passenger vehicles blocked by the train across multiple intersections for over half an hour, and only around half of the blocked vehicles bothered to even shut their engine off.
Therefore, parked train blocking traffic to an entire community for over half an hour is burning more fossil fuels than if the train actually parked in a designated parking area (oh wait, that was only about ~300 feet to the right).
It’s not the train burning the fuel, it’s half the cars waiting for the thing to move. Cause and effect yo, cause is train, effect is around a hundred cars, half of which ain’t got common sense to shut their engine off, steady burning gas.
So the parked train literally causes excess emissions, from the vehicles they block, but the train isn’t at fault?
Why train park and block intersections, multiple times a week?
I get you’re pissed that you have to wait for a train sometimes. I get it, it happens to me sometimes too. But do you really think the railroad crossing in your specific Mississippi town is the barometer upon which all transportation efficiency is measured?
Maybe your town and local trains just suck?
Our trains run to and from New Orleans Louisiana to Mobile Alabama, possibly even further now, major shipping routes to major corporations no less.
So why they gotta decide to park their freight trains right over our main community artery roads for over a half hour at a time, multiple times a week?
Oh, did I mention, they share the same rail with Amtrak passenger trains? At least Amtrak doesn’t park…
Oh I more than understood your question, as much as there was one. I’m taking the piss out of you because your question is more of a rant than anything else.
Move somewhere else if you don’t like it. You live in an industrial area. As do I, where the trains stop traffic multiple times per day since we have lumber yards here. And we all deal with it because we chose to live here.
The fuel costs of having the train do what it does, even though it’s an inconvenience for you, will certainly be substantially less than them catering to you. That’s by my estimation though. If you have data showing otherwise, let’s take a look at it.
I don’t even live in an industrial area yo, I live by the coast where boating, fishing and food are the big things.
Again, my point is when you got (yes estimated) 100 cars stopped for half an hour, and only half of those cars bother shutting off their engines, well I ain’t about to go knocking on windows to ask people to shut off their vehicles to help the better cause. I ain’t trying to get shot, so half the chucklefucks still run their engines the whole time.
So how much fuel is wasted by passenger vehicles in such circumstances? Sorry I don’t have any exact detailed study for you, but it’s probably not much different than existing studies regarding how much fuel gets wasted at every red light intersection vs a roundabout.
Obviously a roundabout ain’t gonna work for trains, but at the same time the trains don’t need to be parking and blocking traffic multiple times a week…
I just looked up our local train station, that place has been shut down for years, as it’s a flood zone. And no, it’s not flooding today, so trains still go, but the one and only train station has been shut down for years.
Fuck that, Amtrak ought to call to formally complain on everyone’s behalf and safety. It’s a shared track, both freight and passenger trains use the track. At least Amtrak trains don’t park on the track…
It seems someone in your region needs to learn about bridge technology.
Where you think the train goes, assuming it doesn’t just park like it does 3+ times a week? It’s next destination is literally over a bridge.
Good. Now, have your people tried doing that, but with a road?
I’m not even sure what your point is anymore.
Yes we have trains. Yes we have highways. Yes we have bridges, for both even. There’s still no good reason for freight trains to park and block major intersections for over a half hour 3+ times a week.
Anyways, what’s your point?
Pretty sure their point is that, in aggregate, trains are a much more fuel efficient and cost effective than transporting the same goods a comparable distance in trucks. The amount that some people burn idling is insignificant in comparison to these savings over longer distances and higher volumes of goods transported. Given this, the transportation companies are unlikely to switch away from rail transport any time soon.
Honestly, your problem is just shitty planning by your local community if you can get trapped without means of escape while freight moves through, and they are suggesting you guys might want to invest in building a way around this with some of that fancy bridge, overpass or tunnel technology we have these days. Why would anyone else involved inconvenience themselves and others that rely on the rail to do business, just because your locality refuses to address an issue that just impacts you and the folks that live around you?
This is like arguing against having an electric grid anywhere, just because you frequently lose power in hurricanes when trees knock down the power lines, while ignoring the fact your town could literally just bury them, as they do to address this problem in many other places.
It’s a problem from both sides apparently, both the railway and the local government. I ain’t asking them to switch to trucks, hell I get it, more power and efficiency for trains! 👍
Just stop parking in the middle of the rail intersections, there was an actual train parking spot with 3 switched rails they could have parked at for maintenance about ~300 feet to the right, no joke.
But they decided to block not 1 but 2 road intersections instead? I dunno, I’m no railway expert, but I don’t think trains are supposed to park on the road…