I like that this is lowkey a Polymarket Advertisement too. The internet truly is a wonderous place.
Come see why you’re all wrong sore losers, here in a lenghty rantarticle I explain why AI is so good and is going to replace you all:
Goddammit, I clicked.
Hey thats my website! Gemini, call the police!
Every breath you take starts playing on the background…
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People who share the size of a codechange as a mark of how effective ai coding agents are truly missing the point of code changes.
Didn’t you hear? We’re going back to KLOC for measurement of productivity.
I’m just a hobbyist, but I’m always more proud of commits that remove stuff.
Removing shit and it still working perfectly the same is absolutely a goal everyone should have. Less code means less to maintain.
Number of lines of code written is a shitty metric to measure productivity.
In college, on the first day of orientation, someone in my class bragged that they wrote 50,000 lines of code for a game that was similar to tic tac toe, emphasizing that he “wrote a lot of code”. A TA told him that it wasn’t a sign that his program was decent and that it really didn’t seem like it should take 50k lines of code to make something as simple as his game.
He dropped out after the first week of intro to programming.
That’s nothing, I wrote the code to return if the input is even or not in 1M lines of code.
If 1 no else if 2 yes else if 3 no…
If you want to learn natural language processing, this is actually a fun example to generate code for.
Exactly…
And yet I experience it so often. That or “effort points” as the metric being used to determine who all stars are.
Either as a metric just encourages gaming of the system:
- Why write one line when I can write the same thing in 20?
- Why take this one effort point task I think will take three when I can just skip it and grab these one effort points I think will take 20 minutes?
I’ve been on teams that on the surface didn’t have these metrics matter, but the top effort points achiever got bonuses on the DL.
What did you do?? You refacted the code and now it’s better organized but you overall got rid of lines?
I’ll set up a PMD meeting to help you out of this problem, but fair to say don’t expect a raise or a bonus this year.
I wouldn’t say PR size is a bad metric, you usually just need yo read it the opposite of how sloppers do it, i.e. the most productive PRs are short and focused.
PR size is an awful metric. The bigger the PR, the less reviewable it is.
Then Devs focus on minifying the code into an unreadable mess
Hah, if those pesky devs think that they can play the system by just rolling up the code into a single line they got another thing coming - we’re actually tracking PR character count, NOT LOC like some other companies!
I’m not saying it’s a good individual metric. In fact, applying individual metrics to developers (or most workers really), will only land you in Goodhart’s hell.
But as part of holistic operational health tracking, it’s a useful team level metric, as there is ample evidence that shorter PRs tend to result in less operational issues. And, of course, this is only valid if you don’t try to tie financial rewards to it, otherwise people will forget that PR size is a proxy measure for how easy changes are to review and rollback.
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People who’ve never reviewed a PR be like. Wow green number big, is good.
those aren’t upvotes?
Lines added, lines deleted
Might as well be bragging about pictures they’ve taken of their bowel movements.
Please tell me this subreddit is satire
No, this is the most serious subreddit in all of reddit.
Positive diff? Pfft, amateurs. If I ever see even a 1000 line PR I’m instantly rejecting and closing it. Learn to code, not generate bullshit.
I’m pretty sure the shitty Windows upgrades as of late has been vibecoded as well.
You know what’s funny?
I use AI to develop software. However when I’m looking for libraries to do things if I see a CLAUDE.md file I have to look and see when it was added and hold it against the library if it’s early in the history.
It’s like prewar steel.
I also recognize it’s hypocritical.
It’s not hypocritical. Because you use AI to code, you know how easy it is to just let the AI do it’s thing and not check it’s work. It’s almost like a sirens song. So you know the odds that a library that was coded with AI probably wasn’t checked by a human. That’s just called experience.
It’s the difference between checking for questions in stack overflow and implementing solutions VS pasting every SO solution blindly until something works.
I do use autocomplete and ask plenty questions, sometimes even use an agent so it makes small changes that I then review and test, but I would never commit unchecked changes, and a claude.md implies that the AI is coding AND committing without supervision.
I can’t stress enough how different those scenarios are.
Live by the vibes, die by the vibes.
vibes = vibes-3 if (outage) { fix() }Coding is so easy
They just forgot to include “no bugs” in the prompt.
Look mommy, I made big poo poo.
We are n weeks away for not needing developers anymore
Let n be a natural number, and b be the time to the next major extinction event.
About 6 months to replace devs since 2023.
Anytime now… Anytime…
Figures Reddit has a Codex sub, where they are all shilling for it.
What could go wrong?
I use AI to reduce my overly complex shite and automate making boilerplate stuff I can’t be bothered with.
I’d never ever just let it run roughshod over the whole code base unattended.
