• SenK@lemmy.caOP
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      17 hours ago

      First I can look at my own values and discover that I happen to value human well-being. I like it when people are happy, healthy and free of suffering. It doesn’t make me a “virtuous” person, I’m a human too so I could be purely guided by self-interest.

      Then I can look at science and reason and conclude that by those things, I can generally figure out what kind of things impact human well-being and how.

      Then I can look at someone’s behavior and conclude that it’s either beneficial or detrimental to human well-being.

      Then I can look at science and reason again to find out how to address that behavior in order to reduce (or even entirely prevent) harm.

      I don’t need a moral framework for any of that, and I certainly don’t need to judge people as essentially “good” or “evil”.

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          17 hours ago

          My capacity for empathy has nothing to do with anything.

          Again: I just happen to value human well-being, and as literally everybody in the universe, I will seek to act in accordance to my values, which usually easily puts me in the same camp as other people who value human well-being.

          There are people out there who value “the word of the lord” or something like that more. Like they would prefer to kill wrong-believers because they value their religious text more than human life. They think they are “good” too. I don’t agree with them, but if MOST people did, then they would get to decide what “good” is.

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            17 hours ago

            Nah. That’s bad. I don’t care what most people think. Treating people with empathy is good. Treating people as objects is bad.

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              16 hours ago

              I agree that treating people with empathy is beneficial for their well-being.